Tigerite Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Thanks Tigerite, if Arthur can have a few meeting's where he has 5/6 rides he will get better and better.Is Andre a key rider? that heat 1 partnership looks a very strong one.The whole team are key riders for me, there are a few riders capable of upping their averages. The Steady/Andre pairing does look an awesome one though particulary at Owlerton. The last time they were a pairing for Sheffield was in 1999 when we did the treble. Edited April 4, 2015 by Tigerite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Riders now meant to go back straight to tapes for a re run. Meeting started late enough for some reason and heat one just took forever, if there is movement allow rider to settle then it saves messing about ! Kus missed two minutes but was allowed to race, clock on back straight very handy ! Some delays were unavoidable like the 2 crashes and a rider going out twice in a row but rest of meeting just seemed to drag ! Starting on time would be a good start and that was maybe promotion, don't advertise half 7 if it isn't going to be. Just to clarify, after an unsatisfactory start, riders aren't allowed to return to the pits. They can stay on the track for refuelling etc, while the fresh 2 minutes are running down. The time allowance is at the referee's discretion, and a rider can overrun by a few seconds if the referee deems it ok. This happened twice on Thursday, one to each team. The clock on the back straight is only a guide. It should be near the starting gate, easily visible to all riders and the Start Marshall, as it is for GPs, televised Sky meetings etc. It is up to the Clerk of the Course to ensure the pre-meeting introductions start on time. The referee can't really control that. Hope these comments help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIS002 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Why do you think the referee wasn't very good? He didn't get anything wrong from what I could see. He missed a pair of two minute exclusions and should not have put all four back when proctor got trashed as the Redcar riders chain snapped going into turn 1 and was the cause of the accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 should not have put all four back when proctor got trashed as the Redcar riders chain snapped going into turn 1 and was the cause of the accident. Think the red light was already on when the accident happened for Skidmore jumping the start and so couldn't have excluded him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIS002 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Think the red light was already on when the accident happened for Skidmore jumping the start and so couldn't have excluded him. Thanks CB I missed the Red light👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 . Thanks CB I missed the Red light Just shows how Referees can get stick sometimes undeservedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Just to clarify, after an unsatisfactory start, riders aren't allowed to return to the pits. They can stay on the track for refuelling etc, while the fresh 2 minutes are running down. The time allowance is at the referee's discretion, and a rider can overrun by a few seconds if the referee deems it ok. This happened twice on Thursday, one to each team. The clock on the back straight is only a guide. It should be near the starting gate, easily visible to all riders and the Start Marshall, as it is for GPs, televised Sky meetings etc. It is up to the Clerk of the Course to ensure the pre-meeting introductions start on time. The referee can't really control that. Hope these comments help. The trailer clock that Sheffield are using couldn't be near the start/finish line a)because of it's dimensions and b)the lights are bright red and could confuse the riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Any views on taking a point off Andre when his exhaust system was failing in some way. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky from Sheffield Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yup. Andre's silencer fell off on lap 2 and as a result his bike was illegal. Definite exclusion. Good job really. A Sheffield 4-2 in that race would have allowed Bjerre to take a tactical in the next race which he won! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooose Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Any views on taking a point off Andre when his exhaust system was failing in some way. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. It wasn't so much failing as it fell off during the race. Under the rules, he was likely to be excluded for this. Nice to see him back on form at Scunthorpe today. As was Josh - if he keeps his head screwed on he could be a real trump card for us this year. Hopefully the management are doing their bit behind the scenes with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 It wasn't so much failing as it fell off during the race. Under the rules, he was likely to be excluded for this. Nice to see him back on form at Scunthorpe today. As was Josh - if he keeps his head screwed on he could be a real trump card for us this year. Hopefully the management are doing their bit behind the scenes with him. Has Josh learned to Gate yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Any views on taking a point off Andre when his exhaust system was failing in some way. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. Weirdly, in all my years of watching speedway I can only think of one time a rider got excluded because his silencer fell off. Newport vs Newcastle in 2000 when Andre Compton fell off and flew into the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Has Josh learned to Gate yet?Talking about Josh Bates here, and yes the boy can gate! However if you meant Josh Auty he still suffers from gating issues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIS002 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Just shows how Referees can get stick sometimes undeservedly. But he should have been excluded in the rerun when his bike stalled at the line and after the clock had run down. Turned around bump started and went back to the line and was allowed to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Any views on taking a point off Andre when his exhaust system was failing in some way. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. May have prevented Redcar from Getting a point, as they would have been 10 behind and nominated Bjerre as a tactical ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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