Baldyman Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Well Chris Louis I think the new manager possibly cost us a draw or maybe the win, surely covatti should have had an extra ride either replacing Stefan or gino when they rode together, probably gino. That said I'm sure he did do the job on the night to be best of his abilities Edited March 24, 2015 by baldyman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 You mean heat 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Wonder what odds you'd have got on the result of heat 15 too having just looked at it. Heeps first, Aspegren second with King and Kennett third and last! Not many would have predicted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yeah heat 12,, surely a change was a no brainer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yeah heat 12,, surely a change was a no brainer To be fair, early season TM's sometimes don't change riders to give them all track practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 So are you saying they didn't care if the team didn't win, and send their teams fans home happy doing the best they could of to win? After spending hundreds and hundreds of pounds following my team around the country most weeks, that's not a very nice thing to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 To be fair, early season TM's sometimes don't change riders to give them all track practice. But if there is a chance for the win, you have to go for it! Its the attitude of "not winning or losing its the taking part" that has got uk sport in a mess! Oh well least i know not to bother with going for a few weeks until we have a chance of winning! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 To be fair, early season TM's sometimes don't change riders to give them all track practice. There's also the possibility that the team manager had a change in mind also, but for reasons not known to any of us didn't/couldn't make that change. Unless you're right there in the thick of the action, it's impossible to know why some changes did or didn't happen during meetings. No doubt sometimes managers miss a trick or two, but also I'm sure there are times when some decisions look baffling to us sitting in the stands, but make perfect sense down in the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 In a professional sport like football do they leave their non performing striker on the pitch if he isn't performing just to give him some extra match time? No, didn't think so. So is team speedway a sport or an entertainment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 EVERYONE deserves a run out at the start of the season. the more you muck em around , the less performance you get. its just the start of the season..good god.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Nielsen looked the better rider on the night, his machinery let him down otherwise he would have been the match winner for the Witches. Covatti popped out and won a couple but came last in his other heats, didn't look like a bloke who finished 5th in a GP challenge to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 EVERYONE deserves a run out at the start of the season. the more you muck em around , the less performance you get. its just the start of the season..good god.. But why do they deserve it? if the start of the season of different to the rest then surely admission costs should be less as they not taking it seriously? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Actually I think you will find in most professional sports, if you drop someone, they normally perform better next time, cos no one likes to be dropped. Again, in most professional sports, it wouldn't matter when in the season it is, they would try to do the best they can to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Wonder what odds you'd have got on the result of heat 15 too having just looked at it. Heeps first, Aspegren second with King and Kennett third and last! Not many would have predicted that. Kennett frequently comes 3rd or last in heat 15, so no surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Kennett frequently comes 3rd or last in heat 15, so no surprise But probably in a stronger looking heat than Saturday? I appreciate that Heeps was riding very well on the night, but in a race featuring him, Aspegren King and Kennett it's still a surprise to me to see the two EL boys battling for the single point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 But probably in a stronger looking heat than Saturday? I appreciate that Heeps was riding very well on the night, but in a race featuring him, Aspegren King and Kennett it's still a surprise to me to see the two EL boys battling for the single point. Perhaps Danny was aware you only needed a 4-2 for the point and was just content to keep Edward at the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2646057 Heavy rain through the morning, and brightening up early afternoon onwards according to the latest forecast. Looks better than it did yesterday so hopefully it'll look better still again tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) There's also the possibility that the team manager had a change in mind also, but for reasons not known to any of us didn't/couldn't make that change. Unless you're right there in the thick of the action, it's impossible to know why some changes did or didn't happen during meetings. No doubt sometimes managers miss a trick or two, but also I'm sure there are times when some decisions look baffling to us sitting in the stands, but make perfect sense down in the pits. Exactly. Unless you are in the pits, you don't know whether riders want to go out, or even have a warmed up bike that's legal at the stage of the meeting, or are in the toilet. At this stage of the season, you try to get the win, but riders have to be given rides for them to pick up the form for the rest of the season. If you take riders out, and they are in the doldrums for a little while, the same folks are complaining about the rider not being given the opportunities to get form. TM's are alway wrong BTW. Actually I think you will find in most professional sports, if you drop someone, they normally perform better next time, cos no one likes to be dropped. Again, in most professional sports, it wouldn't matter when in the season it is, they would try to do the best they can to win. But it does in Speedway, when friendlies precede the League. In Football, they take some decent players off to look after them for the rest of the season, and give other players pitch time. Both practices are right, and Speedway does not usually compare with Football. Edited March 24, 2015 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) This wasn't a friendly, it's part of the league cup, if it was a friendly then fair enough, but it's one of 3 titles up for grabs. And I've been in the pits when it's all going on many many times, but on this occasion i just think it was an opportunity missed by the team manager, but like the team manager is can be wrong. Edited March 24, 2015 by baldyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Baldyman It was also a no brainer to put Covatti in heat 1 to get him used to a track he had never seen before....but he wasn't there....IMO Manzares and Nielsen had both been riding well especially Stefan and we needed to avoid last places in thatheat which both had achieved consistently during the evening....It didn't work out...Move on....Brendan Rodgers brought on Steven Gerrard on Sunday to change a game....it didn't work...move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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