John Leslie Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Michael Schumacher had a gopro camera attached to his helmet when he had his skiing accident. The accident investigators believe this to be a factor in causing the helmet to be weakened and split. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Helmets are more or less round for a good reason, to my way of thinking there are safer places for cameras. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Michael Schumacher had a gopro camera attached to his helmet when he had his skiing accident. The accident investigators believe this to be a factor in causing the helmet to be weakened and split.There ya go then, NO ARGUMENT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott1412 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 surely the gopro camera's can just be placed somewhere safe on the bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hans Andersen was using a camera strapped to his chest at Coventry P & P on Friday. Â ATB Â Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Michael Schumacher had a gopro camera attached to his helmet when he had his skiing accident. The accident investigators believe this to be a factor in causing the helmet to be weakened and split. Corrrect, and as a result of his injuries, the association of helmet manufacturers, have advised the FIM that the helmets are not suitable for a camera mount, on the grounds of rider safety. The SCB is just following and applying rules given the advice they have been issued. As others have said, and this years rule book states, any cameras must be bike mounted safely. If Hans continues to try to use a chest camera, I would think that would be banned in due course, using SCB's analogy above regarding the spike theory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Surely a camera can be fitted to the handle bars very easily - admittedly it might be pointing outwards when the bike is sliding?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 How come it's OK for MotoX riders to wear them and not speedway riders? Is it because it's an FIM advisory and not a rule? Have the SCB made the actual rule? Â Let the riders know the risks, let them make their own choice. That's my view for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Just stick it on the peak rather than the helmet itself. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Let the riders know the risks, let them make their own choice. That's my view for what it's worth. Doesn't work like that. Â If a rider had a bad accident whilst using a helmet cam, the insurance would want to know why the SCB allowed a rider to race with a helmet cam when they had already been given advice from the FIM about the dangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 How come it's OK for MotoX riders to wear them and not speedway riders? Is it because it's an FIM advisory and not a rule? Have the SCB made the actual rule? Â Let the riders know the risks, let them make their own choice. That's my view for what it's worth. I think the new rules are meant to include MotoX events as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Actually who does buy the suit - individual riders or the club? Confusing because it looked like Hansen bought his and was then waiting to be reimbursed, judging by how much complaining he was doing about payment during the Winter. So the club in his case? Probably in Adam Roynon's case as well as someone has set up a fund to replace his ruined ones. Presumably Peterborough won't be buying him a second set.......if they did indeed buy the original ones. Edited March 18, 2015 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I always "assumed" that if the there were team kevlars then they were supplied and paid for by the club......and if just race jackets are supplied the the rider buys their own kevlars....why would a rider opt to buy a design of a clubs choosing rather than their own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Just to emphasise the point, at todays P&P, Poole's team kevlars clearly came from 2 different suppliers with variations in the darker and lighter blue/white. Â A clear case of there not being a 'blueprint'!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Actually who does buy the suit - individual riders or the club? Confusing because it looked like Hansen bought his and was then waiting to be reimbursed, judging by how much complaining he was doing about payment during the Winter. So the club in his case? Probably in Adam Roynon's case as well as someone has set up a fund to replace his ruined ones. Presumably Peterborough won't be buying him a second set.......if they did indeed buy the original ones. Â If Adam Roynon is really begging for supporters to pay for a new team suit, what's the script there? Â He was riding for Peterborough and got hurt in their cause. Surely the club will now replace his suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Â If Adam Roynon is really begging for supporters to pay for a new team suit, what's the script there? Â He was riding for Peterborough and got hurt in their cause. Surely the club will now replace his suit? Speedway Riders Benevolent Fund ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 With some riders having 'arrangements' with certain suppliers, its often left to individuals to do the ordering to a specific design and to their own individual sizes. Often the rider will pay for the kevlars and depending on the terms of their club contract, will be refunded the cost (or not) in their pay packets once they start racing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 With some riders having 'arrangements' with certain suppliers, its often left to individuals to do the ordering to a specific design and to their own individual sizes. Often the rider will pay for the kevlars and depending on the terms of their club contract, will be refunded the cost (or not) in their pay packets once they start racing!! Ah.....so that must have been what happened with Kenneth Hansen. He bought his own suit and then wanted the cost refunded from the Coventry promoters who took quite a while to react. Personally how he rode all season I wouldn't have been in any hurry to pay him back anything other than the points he scored. Â Â If Adam Roynon is really begging for supporters to pay for a new team suit, what's the script there? Â He was riding for Peterborough and got hurt in their cause. Surely the club will now replace his suit? Â No idea what happens but it isn't Adam who is 'begging for supporters to pay for his new team suit.' It is a fan who decided to start off the fund for Adam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Question........ Â If a rider has a race suit that complies to the regulations i.e full Kevlar / no nylon but it doesn't have the correct "approved for 2105 etc" tag..... A. Could he still use it? B. Where could he get it verified for use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Question........ Â If a rider has a race suit that complies to the regulations i.e full Kevlar / no nylon but it doesn't have the correct "approved for 2105 etc" tag..... A. Could he still use it? B. Where could he get it verified for use? Â A NO Â B Back to the original manufacturer to have the required disclaimer tag stitched in the garment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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