stratton Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I would not put Lambert at Lee and Wards level (ie) those two have to be the most talented riders ever?.Lambert though is a talent when i have seen him his gating is very poor but he is rounded a very good rider indeed a thinking rider one ride this year he produced at Lakeside this year was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I would not put Lambert at Lee and Wards level (ie) those two have to be the most talented riders ever?.Lambert though is a talent when i have seen him his gating is very poor but he is rounded a very good rider indeed a thinking rider one ride this year he produced at Lakeside this year was awesome.Lee was unbelievable at that age IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Â Â Lee was unbelievable at that age IMOLee i see as a 16 year old in the Silver Plume at Swindon he scored 10 pts a mega talent.He averaged 9 plus in a very hard NL at the age of 16 some doing Eh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Risager was rated a lot higher than Lambert at the same age people calling him the next big thing and a World Champion in waiting etc . Not sure what the debate is about it was a fact .That's not to Say that Lambert will go on to be a great rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Risager was rated a lot higher than Lambert at the same age people calling him the next big thing and a World Champion in waiting etc . Not sure what the debate is about it was a fact .That's not to Say that Lambert will go on to be a great riderI never ever heard from anybody that Risager was that highly rated,?certainly not in the league of NIelsen,Gundo,Knudsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I never ever heard from anybody that Risager was that highly rated,?certainly not in the league of NIelsen,Gundo,Knudsen. This seems to suggest otherwise Sid.I could do a search and find more I reckon.Maybe you could as well.Think your memory is letting you down on this one  http://www.lovespeedway24.co.uk/teams/ipswich-witches/it_doesn_t_seem_10_years_more_like_10_days_since_morten_risager_burst_onto_the_speedway_scene_according_to_him_on_saturday_it_s_his_testimonial_meeting_at_foxhall_scott_nicholls_kenneth_bjerre_and_niels_kristian_iversen_and_all_1_3458885 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 This seems to suggest otherwise Sid.I could do a search and find more I reckon.Maybe you could as well.Think your memory is letting you down on this one  http://www.lovespeedway24.co.uk/teams/ipswich-witches/it_doesn_t_seem_10_years_more_like_10_days_since_morten_risager_burst_onto_the_speedway_scene_according_to_him_on_saturday_it_s_his_testimonial_meeting_at_foxhall_scott_nicholls_kenneth_bjerre_and_niels_kristian_iversen_and_all_1_3458885 Correct got a old Speedway Star here when they had a piece about Risager being a World Champion and people calling him the new Hans etc ...I thought the Risager story had been well documented . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 He's good, he just needs to not believe the hype…. oh and not leave the track at lakeside and cost his team points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 This seems to suggest otherwise Sid.I could do a search and find more I reckon.Maybe you could as well.Think your memory is letting you down on this one  http://www.lovespeedway24.co.uk/teams/ipswich-witches/it_doesn_t_seem_10_years_more_like_10_days_since_morten_risager_burst_onto_the_speedway_scene_according_to_him_on_saturday_it_s_his_testimonial_meeting_at_foxhall_scott_nicholls_kenneth_bjerre_and_niels_kristian_iversen_and_all_1_3458885 No i just went by my own opinion, and are you seriously telling me Risager was EVER rated as highly as the three i named and believe me IRis i think my memory will be always be able to compete with you not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Was very impressed when Lambert came to Lakeside, was expecting him to ride the wrong lines and struggle like other big track riders. He was on the ball from his first race, and has got great track craft. Just needs to improve his gating, and keep his head down; hopefully he can go all the way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 No i just went by my own opinion, and are you seriously telling me Risager was EVER rated as highly as the three i named and believe me IRis i think my memory will be always be able to compete with you not a problem. Of course he was ..Why do you think everyone is telling you ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Let's hope that you are right. There is precious little to cheer about in British Speedway these days. Â Now who was it said "And things can only get worse?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 No i just went by my own opinion, and are you seriously telling me Risager was EVER rated as highly as the three i named and believe me IRis i think my memory will be always be able to compete with you not a problem. It's not about your opinion sid.Just because you don't remember people rating Risager highly doesn't mean it didn't happen.IT DID 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Of course he was ..Why do you think everyone is telling you ?What you ? and Iris thanks,was Risager rated higher than the three i named EVER? yes or no ? I see Knudsen as a 16/ 17 kid under the wing of Olsen in a different league to Risager he was promising no more than that end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) What you ? and Iris thanks, was Risager rated higher than the three i named EVER? yes or no ? I see Knudsen as a 16/ 17 kid under the wing of Olsen in a different league to Risager he was promising no more than that end of. It doesn't matter in comparison to others how he was rated.He was rated very highly and by some a future world champ.He didn't have to be as good as Lee,because he was retired by then and Risager wouldn't have to beat him to become world champ.......It is a fact.Just look at the link provided or take a search back to things around 2005 about him Edited March 12, 2015 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I never ever heard from anybody that Risager was that highly rated,?certainly not in the league of NIelsen,Gundo,Knudsen. See, call yourself a fan. Risager was highly rated. Anyone who knows anything about the sport remember him being highly rated. He was raved about as some wonder kid who was riding on the continent at 15 and beating all sorts of riders. Anyone trying to have this discussion and unable to remember that, frankly, are not worth discussing it with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) What you ? and Iris thanks, was Risager rated higher than the three i named EVER? yes or no ? I see Knudsen as a 16/ 17 kid under the wing of Olsen in a different league to Risager he was promising no more than that end of. When did anyone say he was rated higher than them ? What does it matter what you saw ....What people said was that Risager could be future World Champion at 16 and be the new Hans ....it's not up for debate it was a fact ...you opinion of how good he was won't change that . Edited March 12, 2015 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) See, call yourself a fan. Risager was highly rated. Anyone who knows anything about the sport remember him being highly rated. He was raved about as some wonder kid who was riding on the continent at 15 and beating all sorts of riders. Anyone trying to have this discussion and unable to remember that, frankly, are not worth discussing it with. You saw him didn't you?Week in week out.Not some once a year guy who won't listen,I'll listen what did you think and those who saw him week in week out and the people who dealt with him.Very professional I heard took it to another level at junior level in Denmark.I'm listening Edited March 12, 2015 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 What you ? and Iris thanks, was Risager rated higher than the three i named EVER? yes or no ? I see Knudsen as a 16/ 17 kid under the wing of Olsen in a different league to Risager he was promising no more than that end of. And don't forget SCB, he provided those FACTS that supported the argument. Â Oh and me too because I also recall Risager was very highly rated. Â Do you see a pattern emerging? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 What you ? and Iris thanks, Â It isn't just me and Orion though.It is Orion,scb(who saw him week in week out) the guy who wrote the piece I linked to,the speedway star guy and the people my mate Udo keeps baiting after all these years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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