E I Addio Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Aahh - but he spent a long while playing second fiddle to Terry Betts at Kings Lynn. When he moved to Poole he was superb. He was probably one of the most talented motorcyclists of his day. BW perhaps Mauger was not the most naturally talented Rider - but he was most certainly one of the most talented Riders I have seen. He did it the hard way and worked for his talent. I would agree with that. You only have to look at Simmo's success on grass tracks before he eventually gave it up to concentrate full time on speedway. In many ways he was the opposite of Mauger. While Mauger had to work at his talent in thoughtful methodical way, Simmo had terrific motorcycle .skills but by his own admission he was somewhat irresponsible and really only got his act together in the latter half of his career. In all walks of life people with natural talent sometimes take it for granted and those who have to work at it sometimes do better in the long run. As to him playing second fiddle to Terry Betts, according to Simmo;s DVD Terry had it written into his contract that he would ride No1 which under the race formula at the time meant Terry met the opposing No1 once while Simmo had to race him twice. As to Robert :Lambert there is no way of telling how far he could go. Its far to early to even guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I think that so far in his short speedway career he has been let down by the GB team management. He has had to go and race in Germany because he really had no baking from over here. In all fairness though King Lynne should be congratulated in giving him the chance to take his part in their team. Only hope that the GB team ( I really hate that name) bring him into the team in some shape or form. He should be good enough to come into the senior squad and perhaps to good for the under 19's or 21's sides. Lets wait and see if they include him this year. I hope so because he has the makings of being one of our better riders if looked after and brought on properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I think that so far in his short speedway career he has been let down by the GB team management. He has had to go and race in Germany because he really had no baking from over here. In all fairness though King Lynne should be congratulated in giving him the chance to take his part in their team. Only hope that the GB team ( I really hate that name) bring him into the team in some shape or form. He should be good enough to come into the senior squad and perhaps to good for the under 19's or 21's sides. Lets wait and see if they include him this year. I hope so because he has the makings of being one of our better riders if looked after and brought on properly. In the past he hasn't made himself available for the British team, wasn't he riding in the German championships? He rode in Germany because he was underage here, there are probably several junior riders who could step-up, but they have gone with the junior competitions here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Being German is not an option He's not German FFS, he just rode over there out of convenience/the level he could compete at at 15. He HAS raced for GB in the Under 21 World Cup last season. Those wanting to put him in the senior GB team are seriously over estimating! When he's ready I'm sure he'll be picked for Team GB - you never know, it may be this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Being German is not an option He's not German FFS, he just rode over there out of convenience/the level he could compete at at 15. He HAS raced for GB in the Under 21 World Cup last season. Those wanting to put him in the senior GB team are seriously over estimating! When he's ready I'm sure he'll be picked for Team GB - you never know, it may be this summer. He rode after talks, previously he had declined, claiming lack of support from the British authorities (what support did he want, did he expect a rule change so he could ride at 14?). Anyway that's all in the past and hopefully he'll have a long and successful future with team GB. Riders CAN change nationality by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 No matter what a riders aga is if they are up to class to ride in a senior level age should not come into it. As long as they can prove they are up to it and are not a danger to the other riders and that they are competative at that level be it 14 or young so what. It is lads like this that should be given a chance and not held back. You only have to look at the ages of the so cauled young British riders that are now riding at reserve palces in the EL, to me none of them should be over the age of 21. I know some of them have come into speedway late but other have been at it for years now, if they have failed in all this time to make it into an EL place then I think that they have left it far to late in their lives to do much about it now. The young British lads are being held back and I have to ask the question WHY ??. Have the promoter no confidence in them, even after they shoewd what they where capable of last year, riding at reserve. Garrity, Newman to name just 2 of them should have been given a full team berth this season and all they did was insulte them by making them ride for another year at reserve. When will they give them a chance, at this rate they will be all to old to improve any further, just has happened to riders from over here for the past couple of decades. We are at the lowest of the lowest in terms of young world class riders. Unless more is done for our youngsters then things will not alter. They seem to be doing a bit more these last couple of years, but the way things are going it will take another 5 or 6 years before there are any riders that we can put forward to make up a British squad. What a shambles or speedway has turned out to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 He rode after talks, previously he had declined, claiming lack of support from the British authorities (what support did he want, did he expect a rule change so he could ride at 14?). Anyway that's all in the past and hopefully he'll have a long and successful future with team GB. Riders CAN change nationality by the way. So they had talks, and he rode. Suggests any issues there may have been were solved. Serially how many people change Nationality, to a Nation that they don't live in and have not connection to? He's not going to become German. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 So they had talks, and he rode. Suggests any issues there may have been were solved. Serially how many people change Nationality, to a Nation that they don't live in and have not connection to? He's not going to become German. No matter what a riders aga is if they are up to class to ride in a senior level age should not come into it. As long as they can prove they are up to it and are not a danger to the other riders and that they are competative at that level be it 14 or young so what. It is lads like this that should be given a chance and not held back. You only have to look at the ages of the so cauled young British riders that are now riding at reserve palces in the EL, to me none of them should be over the age of 21. I know some of them have come into speedway late but other have been at it for years now, if they have failed in all this time to make it into an EL place then I think that they have left it far to late in their lives to do much about it now. The young British lads are being held back and I have to ask the question WHY ??. Have the promoter no confidence in them, even after they shoewd what they where capable of last year, riding at reserve. Garrity, Newman to name just 2 of them should have been given a full team berth this season and all they did was insulte them by making them ride for another year at reserve. When will they give them a chance, at this rate they will be all to old to improve any further, just has happened to riders from over here for the past couple of decades. We are at the lowest of the lowest in terms of young world class riders. Unless more is done for our youngsters then things will not alter. They seem to be doing a bit more these last couple of years, but the way things are going it will take another 5 or 6 years before there are any riders that we can put forward to make up a British squad. What a shambles or speedway has turned out to be. Sorry! I don't agree, I think what we have now is the way to go. So they had talks, and he rode. Suggests any issues there may have been were solved. Serially how many people change Nationality, to a Nation that they don't live in and have not connection to? He's not going to become German. Well he's ridden there for two years, isn't that some sort of connection? I agree that he isn't going to become German (I didn't actually say that he was) but he DID make it known that he wasn't available for selection, until he changed his mind or was persuaded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 He rode after talks, previously he had declined, claiming lack of support from the British authorities (what support did he want, did he expect a rule change so he could ride at 14?). Anyway that's all in the past and hopefully he'll have a long and successful future with team GB. Riders CAN change nationality by the way. Riders can only ride in the SWC for the country who issue their passport. Lambert, as far as i know, is British and has no claim on a German passport. He, like everyone else, can't simply change nationality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 No matter what a riders aga is if they are up to class to ride in a senior level age should not come into it. As long as they can prove they are up to it and are not a danger to the other riders and that they are competative at that level be it 14 or young so what. It is lads like this that should be given a chance and not held back. You only have to look at the ages of the so cauled young British riders that are now riding at reserve palces in the EL, to me none of them should be over the age of 21. I know some of them have come into speedway late but other have been at it for years now, if they have failed in all this time to make it into an EL place then I think that they have left it far to late in their lives to do much about it now. The young British lads are being held back and I have to ask the question WHY ??. Have the promoter no confidence in them, even after they shoewd what they where capable of last year, riding at reserve. Garrity, Newman to name just 2 of them should have been given a full team berth this season and all they did was insulte them by making them ride for another year at reserve. When will they give them a chance, at this rate they will be all to old to improve any further, just has happened to riders from over here for the past couple of decades. We are at the lowest of the lowest in terms of young world class riders. Unless more is done for our youngsters then things will not alter. They seem to be doing a bit more these last couple of years, but the way things are going it will take another 5 or 6 years before there are any riders that we can put forward to make up a British squad. What a shambles or speedway has turned out to be. Totally agree wit ALL your comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 you see lots of foreign riders all posing online with their new vans, supplied by the clubs, in new kevlars plastered with the names of British firms, none of which seems to find its way to the younger British riders ….. then bemoan the fact that they're not as good as foreigners . There's your answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 No matter what a riders aga is nope, I don't care what they cook on either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Well he's ridden there for two years, isn't that some sort of connection? I agree that he isn't going to become German (I didn't actually say that he was) but he DID make it known that he wasn't available for selection, until he changed his mind or was persuaded to. I can just see that when he turns up at the German passport office, "So Mr Lambert, what connection do you have to Germany that make you eligible for a German passport?" "Well I've ridden a speedway bike here about 50 times over the last 2 years" and he'll be laughed out of the passport office. You need a bit more than to have "ridden there for two years" to get a passport for a country!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 In the end the German manager stepped down because the German authorities were not happy that he was working so closely with a British youngster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 I can just see that when he turns up at the German passport office, "So Mr Lambert, what connection do you have to Germany that make you eligible for a German passport?" "Well I've ridden a speedway bike here about 50 times over the last 2 years" and he'll be laughed out of the passport office. You need a bit more than to have "ridden there for two years" to get a passport for a country!! i never mentioned passports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Risager at 16 had backing others could only dream about, if it was available he had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 In the past he hasn't made himself available for the British team, wasn't he riding in the German championships? You didn't mention passports,but you have made a statement that seems to connect his not riding for the British team with his participation in the German championships.Like it has been stated he had pretty well no chance of riding for the German team.What he could have done is ride in individual championships like the world U21s as a 'german' rider.He might have been thinking of this during his disagreement with the British authorities.His friend was of course at the time the German manager and he might have even said Robert would get a nomination.But it could have been a dodgy path to take as it seems the DMSB weren't happy with the close connection between the two and i'd guess would be hesitant to nominate him.It might be in the rules that the top 3 or 4 in the German U21 final get the nominations,but who is to say the DMSB wouldn't change the rules if they thought Robert was taking this route?I know Stephan Katt had problems with the DMSB and hinted he would take out a French licence to get into the world longtrack championships.The French said they had no problems with this.......but......Katt had to enter the French championships and finish in the qualifying places......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 First time tonight that I have seen Lambert 'in the flesh' and I must say I was impressed. Looked very quick and certainly knows how to race. A little slow out of the gate apart from one blinder but if he can get some consistency in the that area he appears to have all the right ingredients to really push on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 First time tonight that I have seen Lambert 'in the flesh' and I must say I was impressed. Looked very quick and certainly knows how to race. A little slow out of the gate apart from one blinder but if he can get some consistency in the that area he appears to have all the right ingredients to really push on. i agree my first time seeing him and boy he can race. Can't gate for toffee but then again neither could Loram 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 First time tonight that I have seen Lambert 'in the flesh' and I must say I was impressed. Looked very quick and certainly knows how to race. A little slow out of the gate apart from one blinder but if he can get some consistency in the that area he appears to have all the right ingredients to really push on. Iv been banging on about Lambert last year, lot of comments that others did not share my highly rated views of him! I honestly believe he is a serious talent. So pleased hes at Lynn, IMO could not be at a better club. I understand that he as a good family behind to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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