iris123 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) a great meeting and a good advert for the sport, cant wait to fork out around £150 for Cardiff. Worth every penny.At those speeds, on these tracks It isn't easy to ride 2 or 3 foot behind the other riders.but these guys do it with precision!!!! Edited May 17, 2015 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Ignoring the venues, any (so called ) World Championship which doesn't include ( for whatever reasons,) the Laguta brothers and Emil Sayfutdinov, is breaching the trades description act. Alan. Spot on brandonbee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Like most of the others I thought it was a dreadful meeting with little passing and riders often strung out, if you missed the gate or made a mistake you were dead and buried as Woffinden amongst others highlighted. The crowd was very poor as well, showing this event in front of an empty stadium hardly creates interest or atmosphere and its hard to see Prague next week helping as although the city is lovely the track is complete pants. Worrying times at the moment for the organisers with the pressure well and truly on for the track technicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill94d Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I have been criticised for this before and will be again but this GP thing is killing speedway, and British speedway in particular. If you want to see the top riders race then you can have big events at venues and tracks that do them justice (like the old Internationale). One quarter filled stadiums on essentially a long track was not good to watch particularly after Warsaw. Let's go back to the old world championship at a track that merits it. Tin hat is on again chaps, but it's nothing personal just my feeling of comparing old with new. I can't see how the accountants can justify that event last night. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Well if you feel like that about speedway, simple, don't go. As for Phil Rising a berk, can't for the life of me why you should call him that!! Seen a few of your posts lately and the wprd thicko sprung to mind - this post clearly cements why i think that!!! Rising will tell you black is white as long as his bsi lovers tell him to do so. At least that disgrace of a gp wont be back on the calender next year - doesnt even look a good stadium so fail to understand where the comments about it being a major stadium come from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I have been criticised for this before and will be again but this GP thing is killing speedway, and British speedway in particular. If you want to see the top riders race then you can have big events at venues and tracks that do them justice (like the old Internationale). One quarter filled stadiums on essentially a long track was not good to watch particularly after Warsaw. Let's go back to the old world championship at a track that merits it. Tin hat is on again chaps, but it's nothing personal just my feeling of comparing old with new. I can't see how the accountants can justify that event last night. You will not get any criticism from me Bill...with you all the way on this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Like Poland? I agree, it was absolute ridiculous for Poland holding a GP at Warsaw when they have several speedway stadiums capable of holding an event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I agree, it was absolute ridiculous for Poland holding a GP at Warsaw when they have several speedway stadiums capable of holding an event.Warsaw would be viewed as a huge success if the starting gate had worked..50+ thousand crowdand decent racingv 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Why was the decision to hold a GP in Warsaw ridiculous?. They sold 55,000 tickets making it the highest ever GP attendance. Had the technical issues been properly addressed this could well have turned out to be a great advert for speedway. Had the same malaise affected Cardiff last year would people say it was a ridiculous decision to hold a GP in Cardiff?. Re Poland having several speedway stadiums capable of holding the event...how many could hold 55,000?. If there is one, would it have been full to capacity?. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Cant they just open up one of the many ruts and bury Ole Olsen in it, the guy should be anywhere near a SGP track. Bung him down 'Norbold's Hole'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphx Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Rider efficiency for yesterday's round in Tampere:Tai Woffinden 80.95%Nicki Pedersen 76.19%Jason Doyle 61.11%Andreas Jonsson 57.14%Michael J. Jensen & Krzysztof Kasprzak 55.56% Jarosław Hampel 52.38% Full stat table http://www.speedwayexplorer.com/match/finnish-speedway-grand-prix-in-tampere Edited May 17, 2015 by cphx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Rider efficiency for yesterday's round in Tampere: Tai Woffinden 80.95% Nicki Pedersen 76.19% Jason Doyle 61.11% Andreas Jonsson 57.14% Michael J. Jensen & Krzysztof Kasprzak 55.56% Jarosław Hampel 52.38% Full stat table http://www.speedwayexplorer.com/match/finnish-speedway-grand-prix-in-tampere Rider efficiency??? What the blazes does that mean? Pedersen was pretty damn efficient, he won the bl00dy thing! More useless stats.... Why oh why do we need them.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Crap track but at least the starting gate worked. ... baby steps people... Can't run before you can walk.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Why was the decision to hold a GP in Warsaw ridiculous?. They sold 55,000 tickets making it the highest ever GP attendance. Had the technical issues been properly addressed this could well have turned out to be a great advert for speedway. Yes, but the technical issues were not sorted out, and what could have been a triumph has turned into a disastrous setback for the sport. The damage done by Warsaw is much worse than Riga, Gelsenkirchen, Tampere and the other fiascos that have gone before. That's not to say those events have not done damage either - the poor crowd at Tampere was surely a reflection on the poor racing last year, whilst the Latvians aren't even bothering with Riga again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hmmm!. Is the most efficient rider the one who leads from the gate, or the one who misses the gate and battles his way to the front?. Yesterday was Pedersen the most efficient because he won the Final, or Woffinden because he out-scored him?. Statistics are useful but can also be irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Bung him down 'Norbold's Hole'. I'm sure The White Knight will agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzum Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Rider efficiency in these stats is just the % of points they got out of the possible points they could have had in the heats they competed in. Not sure the value as someone who makes the semifinal but comes last in it could be lower than someone who didn't make the semi final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Warsaw would be viewed as a huge success if the starting gate had worked..50+ thousand crowdand decent racingvOf course but I don't see the point in a temporary track if they already have stadia capable of holding GP'S. Poland have several stadiums capable and hold 3 gps as it is, does it really need a temporary track? I'm not so sure it will be so well attended next year. I'm an advocate of having it in big stadiums but only if that said country doesn't have stadium fit for a GP. Why was the decision to hold a GP in Warsaw ridiculous?. They sold 55,000 tickets making it the highest ever GP attendance. Had the technical issues been properly addressed this could well have turned out to be a great advert for speedway. Had the same malaise affected Cardiff last year would people say it was a ridiculous decision to hold a GP in Cardiff?. Re Poland having several speedway stadiums capable of holding the event...how many could hold 55,000?. If there is one, would it have been full to capacity?. All I will say is they won't get that next year. Poland have 3 gps already and stadiums capable of holding events without using temporary tracks. Edited May 17, 2015 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 maybe a case of ,vahingosta viisastuu .then again knowing finnish as little as I do,maybe not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 maybe a case of ,vahingosta viisastuu .then again knowing finnish as little as I do,maybe not My wife had a bad case of that but her Gynaecologist sorted it out for her. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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