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It clearly states in a recent notification to all riders that Starting Marshalls must bring the riders up to the tapes in starting grid order from the inside. I would suggest that in addition to the riders, all Starting Marshalls and referees also need to be made aware of this then hopefully much cleaner starts can be looked forward to.

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It clearly states in a recent notification to all riders that Starting Marshalls must bring the riders up to the tapes in starting grid order from the inside. I would suggest that in addition to the riders, all Starting Marshalls and referees also need to be made aware of this then hopefully much cleaner starts can be looked forward to.

That rule has been there as long as I can remember ! But I don't think I've ever seen it implemented, it always seems to be a major job for start marshals.

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Will it stop the persistent I must be last to line up riders waiting for the others to line up. It takes ages when there is more than one such rider in a race.

If Referee sticks the Green Light on at the end of the Two Minutes - they had better not hang back too long or they may find themselves left at the Tapes. It wouldn't have to happen very often for the Riders to get the message.

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Barrow Boy, you remember at Leicester s Blackbird Road Track "the rope" held across the track around 30 yards behind the start gate? To prevent riders riding back round to the pits, or at least keep them on the start/finish line? Would that work in today's Speedway??

So you do agree that something needs to change then.

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Robert Dickson, ex starting marshal at Glasgow, adhered to this proper method of starting for years and I'm glad to say his successor Hugh McNeilly does likewise. It really does make a difference compared to many other tracks I visit and see on the telly. A good few riders don't like it.......but it works providing the marshal is persistent.

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Robert Dickson, ex starting marshal at Glasgow, adhered to this proper method of starting for years and I'm glad to say his successor Hugh McNeilly does likewise. It really does make a difference compared to many other tracks I visit and see on the telly. A good few riders don't like it.......but it works providing the marshal is persistent.

Actually - it is all down to professionalism. If the Starting Marshal does his job correctly and the Riders do theirs - then there should be no problem.

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Perhaps introduce bonus scoring, first to tapes gets an additional 3pts, 2nd to tapes 2 pts and 3rd to tapes gets 1 point, last to tapes gets nowt! So you could lose match big time, but being first to tapes to race would even the score up, no that's a silly idea, ok, just 1pt first to tapes, 1/2pt 2nd to tapes and 1/4 point to 3rd to tapes....... You could ride pants in meeting but get 10,for being first ready to race all night......!!!!!!

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Perhaps introduce bonus scoring, first to tapes gets an additional 3pts, 2nd to tapes 2 pts and 3rd to tapes gets 1 point, last to tapes gets nowt! So you could lose match big time, but being first to tapes to race would even the score up, no that's a silly idea, ok, just 1pt first to tapes, 1/2pt 2nd to tapes and 1/4 point to 3rd to tapes....... You could ride pants in meeting but get 10,for being first ready to race all night......!!!!!!

Brilliant idea - can see all riders barging out the pits, racing around to the tapes. Meeting would be over in 1/2 hour

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Barrow Boy, you remember at Leicester s Blackbird Road Track "the rope" held across the track around 30 yards behind the start gate? To prevent riders riding back round to the pits, or at least keep them on the start/finish line? Would that work in today's Speedway??

Still used at Berwick.

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Your mistaken the rope is at the pits gate and used to make the riders go straight to start instead of heading towards the back straight.

Reread post 6, it is used for the same purpose at Berwick.

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Reread post 6, it is used for the same purpose at Berwick.

 

It is not 30mtrs behind start line it is beyond pit gate to stopped riders going round to back straight and making them go to start.the riders could go to start then turn round and ride back into pits if they wanted judging by the position of the rope.?
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Barrow Boy, remember the guy we had at Leicester in the last couple of seasons at Leicester s old Blackbird Road Cicuit? The one who stood behind the starting gate, about 30 yards back and held a rope from the fence to the kerb to stop riders going back past that point whilst riders gardened.... Stopped um going back past the 4th bend? That kind of worked.... Should that role be brought back? Don't forget, at old Leicester, the pits were on the first bend..... And we're properly gated, not just a set back hole in the fence.. aid the pit marshall had to physically open that gate, riders couldn't just ride through, and nobodly in them days had fuel tanks with just enough fuel in to do 4 laps, or had clutch coolers etc...

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Barrow Boy, remember the guy we had at Leicester in the last couple of seasons at Leicester s old Blackbird Road Cicuit? The one who stood behind the starting gate, about 30 yards back and held a rope from the fence to the kerb to stop riders going back past that point whilst riders gardened.... Stopped um going back past the 4th bend? That kind of worked.... Should that role be brought back?

It's when they have done their messing about and are at rest within a couple of bike lengths of lining up and are waiting for the others to to move up first that I would like stopped. Having a rope 30 meters or so behind them is not going to change things.

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It is not 30mtrs behind start line it is beyond pit gate to stopped riders going round to back straight and making them go to start.the riders could go to start then turn round and ride back into pits if they wanted judging by the position of the rope.?

Which is exactly the point that Shale Searcher was making, and I was saying still happened at Berwick. :o:shock:

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It's all very well saying the Start Marshall must make the riders do this or that, the simple truth is that he cannot physically make the riders do anything at all!

It has always seemed to me that being a Start Marshall is the most thankless and difficult task in speedway, akin to herding a thousand cats through the streets of London in a hailstorm.

I wouldn't do the job for all the tea in China.

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