montie Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 This, in my opinion, is where the asset system is wrong. An EL club can sign or pay a fee & not ride for them for a rider where , for PL clubs, a rider has to have ridden 12 meetings. 8 meetings to which include 4 home 4 away--ie he got his average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) The following list of doubling riders is not a comprehensive list, but if you do not like guests and R/R it will give you some idea of matches to miss should fixtures clash. Simon Stead Belle Vue Sheffield Steve Worral Belle Vue Newcastle Stefan Nielsen Belle Vue Ipswich Danny King Coventry Ipswich Stuart Robson Coventry Redcar James Sarjeant Coventry Glasgow Robert Lambert Kings Lynn Peterborough Lewis Kerr Kings Lynn Newcastle Edward Kennett Lakeside Rye House Ashley Birks Lakeside Sheffield Josh Auty Leicester Scunthorpe Simon Lambert Leicester Peterborough Kyle Newman Poole Plymouth Paul Starke Poole Somerset Nick Morris Swindon Glasgow Kyle Howarth Swindon Workington Charles Wright Swindon Somerset Lewis Rose Swindon Newcastle Lewis Blackbird Wolverhampton Peterborough Josh Bates Wolverhampton Sheffield Edited February 10, 2015 by oldtimer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Lewis Blackbird is owned by Mildenhall, so who gets priority, Wolves or Panthers ? Cardinal Sin, please don't come on here & say he belongs to Ipswich, because he doesn't. P.M. me & I will prove it to you. When Chris Louis left Mildenhall earlier this year, Mildenhall said that he belonged to Chris Louis personally and there was an issue surrounding him and another ride that I can't remember the name of that needed sorting out for him to officially leave but I'm not sure how it ended up. Lewis Blackbird is owned by Mildenhall, so who gets priority, Wolves or Panthers ? Cardinal Sin, please don't come on here & say he belongs to Ipswich, because he doesn't. P.M. me & I will prove it to you. When Chris Louis left Mildenhall earlier this year, Mildenhall said that he belonged to Chris Louis personally and there was an issue surrounding him and another ride that I can't remember the name of that needed sorting out for him to officially leave but I'm not sure how it ended up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 The EL should always get priority unless the rider is owned by his PL team. What other sport would give their second tier priority? Then again what other sport lets participants play for more than one team in professional competiton? The asset system is ridiculous and needs scrapping, priority should be sorted via level of competition. That said, if the EL had a set race night that no clubs in lower tiers were allowed to race on then there would be no clashes whatsoever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 The EL should always get priority unless the rider is owned by his PL team. What other sport would give their second tier priority? Then again what other sport lets participants play for more than one team in professional competiton? The asset system is ridiculous and needs scrapping, priority should be sorted via level of competition. That said, if the EL had a set race night that no clubs in lower tiers were allowed to race on then there would be no clashes whatsoever. EL will never go to one race night.................too many issues with local authorities and other stadium users to be able to do it............... So who goes where then? (parent club) Auty Bates Birks Blackbird (Mildenhall) Cook (Edinburgh) Ellis (Lakeside) Garrity Howarth (Workington) Kennett Kerr (King's Lynn) King (BSPA) Coventry Lawson (Glasgow) Morris Newman (Poole) S Lambert R Lambert Nielsen (Coventry) Belle Vue Robson Coventry Rose (Swindon) King's Lynn Sarjeant (Coventry) Starke (Somerset) Stead (Sheffield) Wells S Worrall (Belle Vue) Wright Added the ones that I know for definite.............. Someone mentioned Dakota North being a Peterborough asset...............but not being used.........he is no longer their asset and is being used by his parent club................ RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 BELLE VUE Cook (Edinburgh) Stead (Sheffield) Worrall (Belle Vue) Stefan (Belle Vue) COVENTRY King (Coventry) Robson (Coventry) Sarjeant (Coventry) KING'S LYNN Kerr (King's Lynn) LAKESIDE Kennett (Lakeside) Lawson (Glasgow) Ellis (Lakeside) Birks (Sheffield). LEICESTER Auty (Scunthorpe) Lambert (Leicester) POOLE Newman (Poole) Starke (Somerset) SWINDON Howarth (Workington) Morris (Swindon) Rose (Swindon) Wright (Somerset). WOLVERHAMPTON Wells (Wolves) Blackbird (Peterborough?). Edited by mdmc82, Today, 06:52 AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 The one's that I know of. So who goes where then? (parent club) Auty (Scunthorpe)Bates (Sheffield)Birks (Scunthorpe)Blackbird (Mildenhall)Cook (Edinburgh)Ellis (Lakeside)Garrity (Rye House)Howarth (Workington)Kennett (Coventry)Kerr (King's Lynn)King (BSPA) CoventryLawson (Glasgow)Morris (Somerset)Newman (Poole)S Lambert (Kings Lynn)R Lambert (Kings Lynn)Nielsen (Coventry) Belle VueRobson CoventryRose (Swindon) King's Lynn Sarjeant (Coventry)Starke (Somerset)Stead (Sheffield)Wells (Coventry)S Worrall (Belle Vue)Wright (Workington) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Lewis Blackbird is owned by Mildenhall, so who gets priority, Wolves or Panthers ? Cardinal Sin, please don't come on here & say he belongs to Ipswich, because he doesn't. P.M. me & I will prove it to you. I can't believe you're still banging this drum over and over again. I'm not debating this with you, you're wrong and that's a fact. You say you're a sponsor of Lewis and he's told you personally that he's a Mildenhall asset. I don't disbelieve you at all, and perhaps Blackbird does genuinely think he is a Mildenhall asset.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 The EL should always get priority unless the rider is owned by his PL team. What other sport would give their second tier priority? Then again what other sport lets participants play for more than one team in professional competiton? The asset system is ridiculous and needs scrapping, priority should be sorted via level of competition. That said, if the EL had a set race night that no clubs in lower tiers were allowed to race on then there would be no clashes whatsoever. But why shouldn't it be that the first club the rider signs for gets priority? Also what happens if a rider signs for another team once the season has started? eg Olli Allen, believe he is owned by Swindon but what would happen if he were to sign for an EL club in April. Would he then have to forego his Peterborough fixtures for his new EL club? As for race night, would be better id EL and PL were on different nights. its the fridays that are the problem..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I can't believe you say its a fact but don't give any evidence to back your claim up. By the way, you are debating this with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I can't believe you say its a fact but don't give any evidence to back your claim up. By the way, you are debating this with me. Foolishly I've been drawn in again. I've already stated weeks ago that I'd said my last word on the matter and I find myself "debating" with you again, you're quite right. I shouldn't have joined in the conversation in the first place, but alas it's too late. There are eyes on this forum as I'm sure you know, and I genuinely don't want to get myself in trouble (if I'm not already) by debating further. If it makes you feel any better, Lewis Blackbird is a Mildenhall asset. Now that IS my last word on the matter. Edited February 10, 2015 by CardinalSin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 The guys from Lynn like Lewis Kerr and Robert Lambert will ride for lynn first then i guess with rider not riding for there clubs they are owned by is who ever they signed for first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 That's why I requested that you reply via a private message, but you declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 The guys from Lynn like Lewis Kerr and Robert Lambert will ride for lynn first then i guess with rider not riding for there clubs they are owned by is who ever they signed for first. the rule has now been confirmed that if the rider isnt riding for their parent club then priority is with the club in the same league as his parent club (not who he signed for first) An example of this is Edward Kennett. He is riding for Lakeside (EL) & Rye house (PL) As his parent club Coventry are an EL club, this means Lakeside will get priority over fixture clashes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 the rule has now been confirmed that if the rider isnt riding for their parent club then priority is with the club in the same league as his parent club (not who he signed for first) An example of this is Edward Kennett. He is riding for Lakeside (EL) & Rye house (PL) As his parent club Coventry are an EL club, this means Lakeside will get priority over fixture clashes There's nowt so queer as Speedway's Rules and Regulations. :blink: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 the rule has now been confirmed that if the rider isnt riding for their parent club then priority is with the club in the same league as his parent club (not who he signed for first) An example of this is Edward Kennett. He is riding for Lakeside (EL) & Rye house (PL) As his parent club Coventry are an EL club, this means Lakeside will get priority over fixture clashes Surely if the meeting is a rearranged one by the EL teams, it would be fair and justifiable to let the rider/s in question to ride for a previously agreed PL fixture. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Surely if the meeting is a rearranged one by the EL teams, it would be fair and justifiable to let the rider/s in question to ride for a previously agreed PL fixture. that will be the case if the fixture is rearranged and not an original one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 if I was a club that had signed a rider expecting them to be available for all my meetings as they weren't contracted to another club, I think I would be more than a bit peeved if they signed for another, something I couldn't prevent, that then meant they were going to miss x % of my meetings. This just seems like a strange rule to me - think it should have stopped as being he who signs first, gets priority 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Lewis Blackbird is owned by Mildenhall, so who gets priority, Wolves or Panthers ? Cardinal Sin, please don't come on here & say he belongs to Ipswich, because he doesn't. P.M. me & I will prove it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Re Lewis Blackbird. Individuals cannot own riders assets and have not been able to for years. Chris Louis cannot own him. Lewis signed as a Mildenhall asset and as far as I know has never been sold. He certainly does not belong to Chris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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