Ghostwalker Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) According to the article linked below, FIM considers to create a new rule which would limit the amount of leagues a rider can ride in. The article claims that FIM wants to have a limit on two leagues for each rider in order to "protect" the newly created Speedway champions league. FIM also claims that this would be good because it would give opportunities to younger rider who are now being "blocked" by more experienced riders, they also claim that it is a safety matter since many riders are getting exhausted by all the travelling, Personally I think this is a very poor idea. With less meetings riders would likely ask/demand for higher pay rates since they have to fund their riding from fewer teams. It would also means that many riders would be unavailable for many of the leagues. There are also not enough riders to fill the available spaces. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espeedway.pl%2Fnews%2Cjeden_zawodnik_dwie_ligi_od_sezonu_2016%2C74856%2C12.html&edit-text= http://www.espeedway.pl/news,jeden_zawodnik_dwie_ligi_od_sezonu_2016,74856,12.html Edited February 7, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Cut the costs in the sport and 2 leagues should be enough for any rider!! If riders start demanding too much then clubs should just turn them down - especially if they cannot afford it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 According to the article linked below, FIM considers to create a new rule which would limit the amount of leagues a rider can ride in. The article claims that FIM wants to have a limit on two leagues for each rider in order to "protect" the newly created Speedway champions league. FIM also claims that this would be good because it would give opportunities to younger rider who are now being "blocked" by more experienced riders, they also claim that it is a safety matter since many riders are getting exhausted by all the travelling, Personally I think this is a very poor idea. With less meetings riders would likely ask/demand for higher pay rates since they have to fund their riding from fewer teams. It would also means that many riders would be unavailable for many of the leagues. There are also not enough riders to fill the available spaces. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espeedway.pl%2Fnews%2Cjeden_zawodnik_dwie_ligi_od_sezonu_2016%2C74856%2C12.html&edit-text= http://www.espeedway.pl/news,jeden_zawodnik_dwie_ligi_od_sezonu_2016,74856,12.html I've always thought that something on these lines should be advocated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 In principle this seems a sensible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 In principle this seems a sensible idea. . Agreed, Best thing they could do, - other than restrict riders to one country/league. That'd be an even better solution ! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 What a joke !!! Poland and Sweden would be the 2 countries riders would choose followed by any combination of Poland/Sweden/Denmark. GB would be shafted good and proper !!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 What a joke !!! Poland and Sweden would be the 2 countries riders would choose followed by any combination of Poland/Sweden/Denmark. GB would be shafted good and proper !!! It would actually create a wider choice of more affordable riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I assume that all the best riders (inc Brits) would ride in Poland and Sweden if given the choice, so NO top riders in the UK. The Pirates might have the clout to persuade a few riders to ditch Sweden but can't see any other team affording the cost. Totally illconcieved idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 In principle the best thing to do.In the short term it might hurt one or two leagues and certainly some riders and fans.It might though gives some riders more chances as at the moment a chosen few are taking up places in most leagues that would be free in future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I assume that all the best riders (inc Brits) would ride in Poland and Sweden if given the choice, so NO top riders in the UK. The Pirates might have the clout to persuade a few riders to ditch Sweden but can't see any other team affording the cost. Totally illconcieved idea. Short term agree. Long term get a proper training plan in place for our youth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Great that they are again thinking of making huge changes! Hopefully this time they will think them through, and not just rush things and then let everyone make their own "common sense" decisions over things. Making one mistake in a change this big, can easily lead to a point where the CCP members can start booking flights to all speedway nations and attend the "lights off" ceremonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 They could insist that one of the 2 leagues must be in the rider's own country. In the case of Australians, Americans etc the riders residencial country could apply. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Short term agree. Long term get a proper training plan in place for our youth. Voice of reason again Dean. :approve: Well said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I assume that all the best riders (inc Brits) would ride in Poland and Sweden if given the choice, so NO top riders in the UK. The Pirates might have the clout to persuade a few riders to ditch Sweden but can't see any other team affording the cost. Totally illconcieved idea. could say, Poland and Sweden accomadate all the top riders and keep on paying a hefty wage bill,,, then what would happen to the young up and coming Poles and Swedes who maybe would'nt get a chance to ride in their own back yard because of all the immigrant speedway riders ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) There are also not enough riders to fill the available spaces.That's a self-fulfilling prophecy though - there never will be enough riders if the same riders take all the places. I don't think this will fly though as it's a restraint of trade issue, plus which leagues would thus apply to? Would riding in the German or Russian League count as one of the two, or would this only apply to the 3 or 4 main leagues, in which case it would be discriminatory. If the FIM are so concerned by this, then they should look at reducing the number of SGP and SEC rounds, not to mention all the other Mickey Mouse events they run... Edited February 7, 2015 by Humphrey Appleby 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 That's a self-fulfilling prophecy though - there never will be enough riders if the same riders take all the places. I don't think this will fly though as it's a restraint of trade issue, plus which leagues would thus apply to? Would riding in the German or Russian League count as one of the two, or would this only apply to the 3 or 4 main leagues, in which case it would be discriminatory. If the FIM are so concerned by this, then they should look at reducing the number of SGP and SEC rounds, not to mention all the other Mickey Mouse events they run... I agree with all of that.The trouble is when you consider the German league it is often only 1 or 2 meetings,which in effect are no more than guest bookings or open meetings really..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 would be good if one of the 2 had to be their home league . riders from countries without a league could adopt a league which would then be their primary home , and always have to be their 1 st choice .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 That's a self-fulfilling prophecy though - there never will be enough riders if the same riders take all the places. I don't think this will fly though as it's a restraint of trade issue, plus which leagues would thus apply to? Would riding in the German or Russian League count as one of the two, or would this only apply to the 3 or 4 main leagues, in which case it would be discriminatory. If the FIM are so concerned by this, then they should look at reducing the number of SGP and SEC rounds, not to mention all the other Mickey Mouse events they run... You mean like the Speedway World Cup? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 would be good if one of the 2 had to be their home league . riders from countries without a league could adopt a league which would then be their primary home , and always have to be their 1 st choice ..Much like I said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I can't see how this would work...EC riders surely couldn't be barred from racing if they want to ride and a team want to employ them..there would be legal issues there surely.....also would the FIM have the powers to bar a non EC rider who meets every criteria for a work permit ?...I would doubt it.. ...and I do honestly believe that any British rider who is good enough will get a team spot somewhere ...nobody will slip under the radar if they are good enough......I just think there aren't enough training opportunities for very young riders, the route from grass track seems to have dried up and a few motocross lads are now coming across but these haven't ridden speedway since their early teens.....more training schools and training tracks are badly required to give British youngsters a go and then the pool of talent would be bigger....as it is the pool isn't big and there aren't that many Brits to choose from but anybody good enough will still get there somehow ....and also, how would this improve the Champions League which is a flawed concept anyway.......the top riders would choose Poland and Sweden so there is still a strong possibility of the same riders from those 2 leagues qualifying so one team will have to change...and the British teams who wouldn't have any of these riders just wouldn't be strong enough to compete .....it just wouldn't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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