Cheating

[waiheke1]

Exactly: tiger woods, lance Armstrong, carl lewis, linford christie, diego maradonna.. do u reckon they were any good starry?

[Starman2006]

Exactly: tiger woods, lance Armstrong, carl lewis, linford christie, diego maradonna.. do u reckon they were any good starry?

That's up to them. But you cannot tar every top sports star with the same brush.

[BWitcher]

That's up to them. But you cannot tar every top sports star with the same brush.

 

You are the one who is making the claims by stating Darcy isn't a cheat.

 

You have no idea, neither do we.

[waiheke1]

That's up to them. But you cannot tar every top sports star with the same brush.

no. Clearly not all top sportsmen cheat. But surely that list shows that your argument that someone being naturally talsnted is proof that they dont cheat is flawed?

[MARK246]

What and how is this "Nitro" obtained, put, and benefit???

 

You can buy nitro/methanol ready mixed at any model aircraft store. http://www.modelairplanenews.com/blog/2013/05/14/what-fuel-is-best-for-your-engine/

 

The improvement in speedway is the acceleration from a start, the most common way to use it was in a sponge inside the slide of the carburetor. Provided you don`t over rev the bike prior to the start, the throttle opening on the line squeezes the nitro mix into the carb. there is no residue in the tank to be detected

[Starman2006]

no. Clearly not all top sportsmen cheat. But surely that list shows that your argument that someone being naturally talsnted is proof that they dont cheat is flawed?

As I said, don't tar every one with the same brush..

 

You are the one who is making the claims by stating Darcy isn't a cheat.

 

 

And I thought id nip that in the bud before all the anti Poole Darcy fan club started their drivel. as that is the way it was going.

[jim the whipper]

 

You can buy nitro/methanol ready mixed at any model aircraft store. http://www.modelairplanenews.com/blog/2013/05/14/what-fuel-is-best-for-your-engine/

 

The improvement in speedway is the acceleration from a start, the most common way to use it was in a sponge inside the slide of the carburetor. Provided you don`t over rev the bike prior to the start, the throttle opening on the line squeezes the nitro mix into the carb. there is no residue in the tank to be detected

Interesting . and when was this ? I assume it would be the round slide carbs to have enugh room above the slide for the sponge , then of course you would need a hole in the slide to allow the nitro through ,or was the needle drilled ?. of course some sort of one way valve would be necessary to stop air travelling back up this new aperture instead of going into the engine ,, I should think the sponge would need some speicailised trimming so as not to interefere with the throttle cable or prevent the slide going all the way up . it must have been fairly recent i should think as up until recent times nitro was undetectable with the equipmebt available to speedway scrutineers. well unless you got caught filling up with it , not least because it evaporates so quickly that by the time the race has ended all trace has evaporated . I would definitiely like to know a bit more , have you ever seen this sytem used succesfully and if you have what was ther era of it's use ..?

[ruffdiamond]

You can buy nitro/methanol ready mixed at any model aircraft store. http://www.modelairplanenews.com/blog/2013/05/14/what-fuel-is-best-for-your-engine/

 

The improvement in speedway is the acceleration from a start, the most common way to use it was in a sponge inside the slide of the carburetor. Provided you don`t over rev the bike prior to the start, the throttle opening on the line squeezes the nitro mix into the carb. there is no residue in the tank to be detected

 

You couldn't make that up, 'class' :-)

[salty]

Never heard such a load of complete rubbish in my life ,, practise before the world final ? . when was that because I went to quite few and never heard of any practise . have you any idea how much bigger the barrell would need to be to increase the capacitity by 50% to 750 . . bikes are brought into the pits and are not allowed to be removed until the meeting is officially closed . do you think for one second that the riders of that era would not have pointed out bikes leaving the pits or being brought in ? there were ways of cheating back then , but none of the above was one of them

Hold on my friend, I'm not saying I believe what was written. I merely reproduced what was written.

[John Leslie]

You couldn't make that up

 

I think he just did

[The White Knight]

Of course you would say that and I would expect nothing else. Darcy is not and has no need to cheat in his position.

BOO HOO!!! :cry: :cry:

Edited February 1, 2015 by The White Knight

[mac101]

Interesting . and when was this ? I assume it would be the round slide carbs to have enugh room above the slide for the sponge , then of course you would need a hole in the slide to allow the nitro through ,or was the needle drilled ?. of course some sort of one way valve would be necessary to stop air travelling back up this new aperture instead of going into the engine ,, I should think the sponge would need some speicailised trimming so as not to interefere with the throttle cable or prevent the slide going all the way up . it must have been fairly recent i should think as up until recent times nitro was undetectable with the equipmebt available to speedway scrutineers. well unless you got caught filling up with it , not least because it evaporates so quickly that by the time the race has ended all trace has evaporated . I would definitiely like to know a bit more , have you ever seen this sytem used succesfully and if you have what was ther era of it's use ..?

Just need to soak the air filter in it most riders change there filters every couple races

[jim the whipper]

Hold on my friend, I'm not saying I believe what was written. I merely reproduced what was written.

you like taking a risk calling a bitter hanger on mechanic and forum antichrisdt " my Friend", you will send at least a couple of forum members into shock that was the work of a supposed former world finalist ? good job he was a speedway rider , because he would never have made a living as a spy novelist , they at least need to slightly believable . anyway better move on to pastures new since the forum technical committee have difficulty coping with my nonsensical posts about things I obviously have no knowledge of ..

[Tsunami]

you like taking a risk calling a bitter hanger on mechanic and forum antichrisdt " my Friend", you will send at least a couple of forum members into shock that was the work of a supposed former world finalist ? good job he was a speedway rider , because he would never have made a living as a spy novelist , they at least need to slightly believable . anyway better move on to pastures new since the forum technical committee have difficulty coping with my nonsensical posts about things I obviously have no knowledge of ..

Are you on the p**s again, my friend.

[jim the whipper]

Just need to soak the air filter in it most riders change there filters every couple races

but however you get the Nitro into the engine if you dont increase the exhaust flow . it will have a negative effect . anyway scratch that .. what would I know ..

[robert72]

People said how much faster holder was in the final GP and then how he blew his engine to bits in the last race after becoming world champion.

 

Would I say holder was cheating no but many do,the problem is cheating doesn't just exist through machinery it can be through throwing races,touching the tapes so a reserve can come out,laying the bike down for a restart.ect

 

Look at football,how many players take a dive, it's in every sport.

[chunky]

Never heard such a load of complete rubbish in my life ,, practise before the world final ? . when was that because I went to quite few and never heard of any practise .

 

You can't have been around for too long, then. Wembley always held an official practice a couple of days before the final, and the newspaper preview of the final would always include photos from the practice.

 

Steve

[iris123]

Didn't the Russians have their bikes stolen after Wembley practice in the 70s?

[PHILIPRISING]

Didn't the Russians have their bikes stolen after Wembley practice in the 70s?

THAT was before a test match ...

THAT was before a test match ...

... I think

[salty]

Always thought the bikes were stolen prior to the 1972 Final.