The White Knight Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 he was welsh surely? Would have morton and carter ahead of wigg and louis. edit: sorry already pointed out above It's OK whka1 I don't mind being embarrassed again. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Peter Craven Peter Collins Split Waterman Eric Langton Dave Jessup John Louis Brian Crutcher Custom a great seven no Farndon? but i certainly would have Lee,Carter,Simmons above Jessup, also Ray Wilson,Ashby,Betts, both Boocock's at least at the same level as Louis. Edited February 2, 2015 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 It's OK whka1 I don't mind being embarrassed again. :rofl:had to smile at that abbreviation of my username, in maori that would be pronounced "f#cka one". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Freddie would be No1 for my Welsh team. I decided to start with seven World Champs as my England team. If Havelock or Loram didn't come up to expectations, they'd be replaced pretty quickly by Jack Parker and Eric Langton / Tom Farndon for the second match. All the best Rob How can you possibly pick Eric Langton. I never ever rated him that highly when he was riding. would prefer Bill Kitchen who in the 1940's won 14 out of the 18 times that these two met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 How can you possibly pick Eric Langton. I never ever rated him that highly when he was riding. would prefer Bill Kitchen who in the 1940's won 14 out of the 18 times that these two met.Langton was as close as u can get to a world title without winning it. Kitchen tbh never got close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 How can you possibly pick Eric Langton. I never ever rated him that highly when he was riding. would prefer Bill Kitchen who in the 1940's won 14 out of the 18 times that these two met. Star riders' champion in 1932 and v. close to World title in 1936. Not sure why you're looking at the post-war Langton in comparison to Kitchen, when Langton was a decade past his best by then. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Exactly. Its a bit like saying kenny carter was better than peter collins because he had the better head to head record against him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Custom a great seven no Farndon? but i certainly would have Lee,Carter,Simmons above Jessup, also Ray Wilson,Ashby,Betts, both Boocock's at least at the same level as Louis. 12 in to 7 don't go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 How can you possibly pick Eric Langton. I never ever rated him that highly when he was riding. would prefer Bill Kitchen who in the 1940's won 14 out of the 18 times that these two met. Blimey, Mick, you're even older than I thought. You saw Eric Langton in his hey-day???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) How can you possibly pick Eric Langton. I never ever rated him that highly when he was riding. would prefer Bill Kitchen who in the 1940's won 14 out of the 18 times that these two met. When did you see Eric Langton ride? I find your comment interesting - I also saw him and Bill Kitchen ride and would like to compare views if possible please. Edited February 3, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 To take on a slightly different tangent,and to borrow customhouse's idea from snother thread. pick 4 4 man england teams to do battle in world team cup format. team a - one time world champs team b - world runners up (never chsmp) Team c- finished 3rd but no higher Team d - never a medalist my teams collins lee price tai parker langton split waterman jessup j louis c louis forrest tatum carter morton farndon n boocock team a to win, from b then d I reckon. team b the hardest to pick with the likes of simmons, wigg and crutcher worthy of consideration. peter collins to top score with a fine maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Star riders' champion in 1932 and v. close to World title in 1936. Not sure why you're looking at the post-war Langton in comparison to Kitchen, when Langton was a decade past his best by then. All the best Rob Lucifer Sam Can you ever get anything right. In season 1946 Eric Langton league average was 11.13. In 1947 he averaged 9.44. Perhaps you could explain why he was a decade past his best with those averages. When did you see Eric Langton ride? I find your comment interesting - I also saw him ride and would like to compare views if possible please. The first match I ever saw was Wembley v Harringay on Thursday May 22nd 1947. The teams and scorers were WEMBLEY Bill Kitchen 10.5, Bronco Wilson, 8 Georgie Wilks 8, Bob Wells 3, Tommy Price 10 ,Bill Gilbert, 5.5, Split Waterman,4, Charlie May,3 HARRINGAY. Vic Duggan 11, Jack Arnfield 1, Frank Dolan, 8 Joe Bowkis 0, Ray Duggan, 9, Norman Lindsay 2, B Whitby1, Danny Lee ) Vic Duggan beat Bill Kitchen in heat One to ruin his maximum and Tommy Price beat Vic Duggan to stop his maximum in heat 12..VD was twice overtaken by TP. In heat 8 Charlie May's handelbars broke., never saw that happen ever again. ADMISSION 2/- or 10 pence in todays terms. Edited February 3, 2015 by mickthemuppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 So to be clear, you never saw langton ride in his peak (I.e. prewar). I think his record makes quite clear that though domestically he may still have been strong (though in 47 he had dropped a couple of points off his average) he didn't get close again to lifting the tirle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 A nice variation on my theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 When did you see Eric Langton ride? I find your comment interesting - I also saw him and Bill Kitchen ride and would like to compare views if possible please. The first match I ever saw was Wembley v Harringay on Thursday May 22nd 1947. The teams and scorers were WEMBLEY Bill Kitchen 10.5, Bronco Wilson, 8 Georgie Wilks 8, Bob Wells 3, Tommy Price 10 ,Bill Gilbert, 5.5, Split Waterman,4, Charlie May,3 HARRINGAY. Vic Duggan 11, Jack Arnfield 1, Frank Dolan, 8 Joe Bowkis 0, Ray Duggan, 9, Norman Lindsay 2, B Whitby1, Danny Lee ) Vic Duggan beat Bill Kitchen in heat One to ruin his maximum and Tommy Price beat Vic Duggan to stop his maximum in heat 12..VD was twice overtaken by TP. In heat 8 Charlie May's handelbars broke., never saw that happen ever again. I also saw Harringay - at New Cross early in 1947. But what I was asking was when did you see Eric Langton ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Lucifer Sam Can you ever get anything right. In season 1946 Eric Langton league average was 11.13. In 1947 he averaged 9.44. Perhaps you could explain why he was a decade past his best with those averages. mickthemuppetCan you ever get anything right? Eric Langton was a much stronger rider before the War. The fact he was still getting those sort of averages after the War shows just shows what a great rider he was over his whole career and much better than Bill Kitchen. Edited February 3, 2015 by norbold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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