T.N.T. Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Teams are almost complete now and we all have our own thoughts on the line ups and who looks strongest and weakest, so post your predictions below naming the FOUR play off TEAMS and then the FOUR that will miss out. Then predict which of the top four will finish as Champions and who will get the Wooden Spoon in the other four. This is NOT a competition but it will be reviewed at the end of the season so no posts after April 1st or edited Here is my predictions so please post likewise TOP FOUR Belle Vue Coventry Poole Kings Lynn CHAMPIONS Poole BOTTOM FOUR Lakeside Wolverhampton Leicester Swindon WOODEN SPOONS Swindon ==================================== BELLE VUE 8.29 Matej Zagar 7.56 Scott Nicholls 6.92 Simon Stead DU 6.21 Craig Cook DU 4.96 Max Fricke Steve Worrall Stefan Nielsen COVENTRY 8.33 Hans Andersen 7.49 Chris Harris 6.74 Daniel King DU 6.33 Joonas Kylmakorpi 4.63 Stuart Robson DU Jason Garrity James Sarjeant KINGS LYNN 9.03 Niels K Iversen 7.41 Kenneth Bjerre 6.22 Rory Schlein 5.78 Niklas Porsing 5.32 Robert Lambert DU Lewis Kerr Ashley Morris LAKESIDE 9.03 Andreas Jonsson 6.85 Mikkel Bech 6.50 Richard Lawson DU 5.63 Kim Nilsson 5.03 Edward Kennett DU Ashley Birks Adam Ellis LEICESTER 8.44 Jason Doyle 7.12 Bjarne Pedersen 6.24 Grzegorz Walasek 6.02 Mikkel Michelsen 5.00 Symzon Wozniak Josh Auty Simon Lambert POOLE 8.75 Chris Holder 7.50 Maciej Janowski 6.71 Davey Watt 6.57 Dakota North 3.94 Kacper Gomolski Kyle Newman Paul Starke SWINDON 8.21 Adrian Meidzinski 7.58 Troy Batchelor 6.31 Nick Morris DU 6.15 Grzegorz Zengota 5.27 Kyle Howarth Charles Wright Lewis Rose WOLVERHAMPTON 8.94 Fredrik Lindgren 6.50 Tobiasz Musielak 6.25 Jacob Thorssell 6.12 Peter Karlsson 5.88 Ricky Wells DU Lewis Blackbird Josh Bates Edited March 29, 2015 by T.N.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 There are only three complete teams, how can you predict anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just asking (not stirring) but where do you get Stuart Robsons 4.63 from? His greensheet average at Newcastle last year was 7.56, which factored at 1.6 makes 4.73. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just asking (not stirring) but where do you get Stuart Robsons 4.63 from? His greensheet average at Newcastle last year was 7.56, which factored at 1.6 makes 4.73. And Wozniak might be on 5.50 for Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I see that you have got Swindon to finish last, which is fine, but it must mean that you know what our completed line-up is. Would you like to reveal it to us? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 He's clearly not busy enough on the night shift 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Any particular reason why Holder is missing from the Poole line-up? It can't be to do with visas as you've included the likes of Doyle, Batchelor in their respective teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just asking (not stirring) but where do you get Stuart Robsons 4.63 from? His greensheet average at Newcastle last year was 7.56, which factored at 1.6 makes 4.73. Has to be 4.63 or it doesn't fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Just asking (not stirring) but where do you get Stuart Robsons 4.63 from? His greensheet average at Newcastle last year was 7.56, which factored at 1.6 makes 4.73. 4.63 was his 2013 final EL average, but have no idea why they are using that rather than last season's converted PL average??! I though where a rider had an EL and PL average - albeit from different seasons -, it was the higher of the 2 that had to be used?! Edited January 31, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I think that's just for Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Robson will either be his 2013 EL average of 4.63. Or his PL average converted which is 4.54 (7.56 x 0.6) What odd is TNt has used Robbos 2013 EL average but Kennetts converted average. So at least one of them is wrong - if we're using rolling averages then it has to be Kennetts IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I see that you have got Swindon to finish last, which is fine, but it must mean that you know what our completed line-up is. Would you like to reveal it to us? Unless they shock the world with Greg, Emil or Darcy AND get the visa sorted for Troy Batchelor, then yes I have Swindon to finish last as they only have three confirmed without Batch and it leaves quite a gap to make them competative ....... in my opinion. He's clearly not busy enough on the night shift Don't work nights, just don;t sleep much Robson will either be his 2013 EL average of 4.63. Or his PL average converted which is 4.54 (7.56 x 0.6) What odd is TNt has used Robbos 2013 EL average but Kennetts converted average. So at least one of them is wrong - if we're using rolling averages then it has to be Kennetts IMO. Only going off the averages pulished from the press release made at the time I think quite a few riders averages may be wrong or slightly out due to the Birmingham matches. Even with those taken out, a rider can have an average that may be wrong bevause during the season he could have been promoted to a heat leader or dropped to a second string with those scores included during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Unless they shock the world with Greg, Emil or Darcy AND get the visa sorted for Troy Batchelor, then yes I have Swindon to finish last as they only have three confirmed without Batch and it leaves quite a gap to make them competative ....... in my opinion.. No problem with that logic except you have POOLE in the top 4 and they are in the same position!! I think your flaw is that you are making assumptions - best to wait until the team is announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Like anyone should take TNT's opinions to heart...it's not as if he is correct on much And where do you get only 3 confirmed with Batch?....do the reserves scores not count towards the overall team scores in 2015....have i missed something?! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Are we any closer to knowing who gets priority with D/U riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 I cannot believe another sport would be in the situation that British Speedway finds itself in at the moment. With less than 6 weeks to the start of the season there are so many issues to be sorted: 1. Visas and the availability of Non-EU riders 2 Teams still to be completed 3 Priority of DU Riders 4. Clarification of fast track riders replacement rules (replaced as per PL aver like when the clubs selected their FTR or as EL aver. as last year.??).. 5 Rules regarding gardening at the tapes, 6 Race format and the programme of heats. 7 Position of riders in the teams. ( in average order or as the TM places them???) I'm sure there are more things to sort out but this is just naming a few... The clocks ticking............ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 TNT the ministry of misinformation . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 No problem with that logic except you have POOLE in the top 4 and they are in the same position!! I think your flaw is that you are making assumptions - best to wait until the team is announced. Poole have Holder all but in just awaiting his visa but have Jamowski, Pawlicki, Ward (ban and visa awaiting), Milik, Gracjzoneck, Madsen all assets not signed up and more plus they always get a title contending team together. Like anyone should take TNT's opinions to heart...it's not as if he is correct on much And where do you get only 3 confirmed with Batch?....do the reserves scores not count towards the overall team scores in 2015....have i missed something?! Noy that far off the mark usually but this is predictions and not a statement. There are 5 members of the team and two Fast Track riders, so once the draw was done, each team had FIVE riders to sign TNT the ministry of misinformation . Like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Are we any closer to knowing who gets priority with D/U riders? As far as I am aware it is the team that the rider is an asset of gets priority.............so for example Richard Lawson has now gone on a full transfer to Glasgow so they get priority over Lakeside............where as if Josh G signed for Poole they would get priority over Somerset............ RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 As far as I am aware it is the team that the rider is an asset of gets priority.............so for example Richard Lawson has now gone on a full transfer to Glasgow so they get priority over Lakeside............where as if Josh G signed for Poole they would get priority over Somerset............ RP Sorry, understand that part but what if not a asset of either club. That's what hasn't yet been confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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