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I have been pondering this for a while and can't find a thread along these lines in the forum. At their very best who would be in your Scottish (born) best ever team? I am not too familiar with the 80's so am prepared to be shot down over this but here goes.

 

1 Ken Mckinlay (has to be there, world finalist many times)

 

2 Tommy Millar (a bit like Brian Crutcher, out of the game too soon)

 

3. Jim Mcmillan

 

4. George Hunter (never as good after the Craven crash as he should have been)

 

5. Gordon McGregor

 

6. Doug Templeton (out of speedway late 50's when he should have been at this best)

 

7. Willie Templeton

 

8. ????

 

Come on gents. Shoot me down and come up with a better team (complete with number 8)

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Haggis will kill me! Let's agree on him as number 8!

You must be joking. Harkins No. 8?

 

He was better than that. With the Riders you have mentioned No. 7 at the very least. W. Templeton No. 8.

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Clearly Bert Harkins and Ross Gilbertson should be added, would put them both above Willie T.

I said this was only for discussion. I now go with Mckinlay, Miller, Mcmillan, Hunter, Mcgregor, Doug. T., Gilbertson (196 matches, 1707 points for Poole), and Harkins. Anyone better that?

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I said this was only for discussion. I now go with Mckinlay, Miller, Mcmillan, Hunter, Mcgregor, Doug. T., Gilbertson (196 matches, 1707 points for Poole), and Harkins. Anyone better that?

That's more like it. :t:

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I can't dispute the older generation - McKinlay, Miller, McGregor, Gilbertson or the Templetons - I never saw any of them ride. Come to think of it, by the time I started going in the late seventies that team was either retired or moving into the latter years of their careers.

 

I would have Bobby Beaton ahead of Bert Harkins. Not much in it, but for me Beaton should get the nod because he didn't dress like he'd put glue on his body and leapt through a tartan mill.

 

If indeed Beaton, and he deserves to be considered at the very least, is the last true 'top class' Scottish rider then it's approaching half-a-century since we produced one. So either:

 

1. We were previously spoiled for choice or

 

2. The time frame largely coincides with the switch to 2nd division racing in Scotland - did Jimmy Mac learn more in second halves than say, Kenny McKinna, racing against higher quality opposition for example? Just a thought or

 

3. We simply haven't produced one or

 

4. Comparing eras is impossible and in actual fact Colin Caffrey would have left Gordon McGregor eating dust.

 

One thing I do know - never mind putting out a team, you'd be lucky to fill a heat with Scottish riders now.

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I can't dispute the older generation - McKinlay, Miller, McGregor, Gilbertson or the Templetons - I never saw any of them ride. Come to think of it, by the time I started going in the late seventies that team was either retired or moving into the latter years of their careers.

 

I would have Bobby Beaton ahead of Bert Harkins. Not much in it, but for me Beaton should get the nod because he didn't dress like he'd put glue on his body and leapt through a tartan mill.

 

If indeed Beaton, and he deserves to be considered at the very least, is the last true 'top class' Scottish rider then it's approaching half-a-century since we produced one. So either:

 

1. We were previously spoiled for choice or

 

2. The time frame largely coincides with the switch to 2nd division racing in Scotland - did Jimmy Mac learn more in second halves than say, Kenny McKinna, racing against higher quality opposition for example? Just a thought or

 

3. We simply haven't produced one or

 

4. Comparing eras is impossible and in actual fact Colin Caffrey would have left Gordon McGregor eating dust.

 

One thing I do know - never mind putting out a team, you'd be lucky to fill a heat with Scottish riders now.

Can't really disagree Dave with the bulk of the sentiment. Where are the McKinlays?

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Hopefully with the developments in the stadium ownership at Ashfield, it would be great to see some training days etc set up. The Dale Devils were a good starting point and a pity they had to give up because of financial reasons. Both Edinburgh and Glasgow could benefit enormously with some home grown talent.

On a different point, it says above Ross Gilbertson was born in Ayton. Is this correct? I live a couple of miles away from Ayton but I'd never heard of him before. Mind you he was well before I got interested in the sport.

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Hopefully with the developments in the stadium ownership at Ashfield, it would be great to see some training days etc set up. The Dale Devils were a good starting point and a pity they had to give up because of financial reasons. Both Edinburgh and Glasgow could benefit enormously with some home grown talent.

On a different point, it says above Ross Gilbertson was born in Ayton. Is this correct? I live a couple of miles away from Ayton but I'd never heard of him before. Mind you he was well before I got interested in the sport.

 

Born on 2 Feb 1933 at Ayton, near Eyemouth. Info from 50 Poole Pirates Greats book. Might be able to check parish records if you are nearby. Died a couple of years ago I believe.

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Born on 2 Feb 1933 at Ayton, near Eyemouth. Info from 50 Poole Pirates Greats book. Might be able to check parish records if you are nearby. Died a couple of years ago I believe.

Passed away in February 2009 as it was in the local press as well.............

 

Just as a side note Bert posted on Facebook the other day that this is the first year for many that there will not be a Scottish born rider riding for a Scottish team.................

 

RP

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