StevePark Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 what does that mean, will he be fit to ride ??? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/domiciled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) http://www.thefreedictionary.com/domiciled thanks,,, why did'nt ye just say that ??? ;-) ye learn something every day,,, how many youngster's would know that word???,,, lol Edited February 4, 2015 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 An Hotel was what I was taught. Grammatically that is correct. A Hotel is just the continuing degradation of the English Language. It's a bit like Colour, Programme and their americanization to Color and Program. Bloody makes me sick. :mad: Incorrect :-) The letter h is a consonant. When a word begins with a hard consonant sound you would use 'a', not 'an'. So it is 'a hotel'. If the h is silent, eg with the word 'hour', you would then use 'an'. A hotel. An hour. I went to a Grammar school. I know this stuff!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 An Hotel was what I was taught. Grammatically that is correct. A Hotel is just the continuing degradation of the English Language. It's a bit like Colour, Programme and their americanization to Color and Program. Bloody makes me sick. :mad: I'd organize a campaign if I were you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Incorrect :-) The letter h is a consonant. When a word begins with a hard consonant sound you would use 'a', not 'an'. So it is 'a hotel'. If the h is silent, eg with the word 'hour', you would then use 'an'. A hotel. An hour. I went to a Grammar school. I know this stuff!! Well I went to Public School....................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cooper Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Incorrect :-) The letter h is a consonant. When a word 'begins with a hard consonant sound you would use 'a', not 'an'. So it is 'a hotel'. If the h is silent, eg with the word 'hour', you would then use 'an'. A hotel. An hour. I went to a Grammar school. I know this stuff!! What the hells all this?countdown ?am I On the wrong thread? If not can I have one from the top two from the middle and one from the bottom please rschel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Christian Henry is long term domiciled in UK (same as Ricky Wells) and is OK. is that in an official capacity, ie applied and recieved from the relevant authority or just that he has lived here for a long time, quite a big difference that is very relevant to ukvi. alex davies is the one i feel for the most, was shafted basically last season by somerset with his visa much the same as sam master's previously had to sit out last season on a 7+ avg, now due to missing last season through no fault of his own could miss out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Well I went to Public School.......................................In grammar lessons at public schools do they teach you how to say things like "phwoooaaarrr Nige, super speedway!"Anyway, in light of them mis-leading you around "an hotel" maybe you can ger a refund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 In grammar lessons at public schools do they teach you how to say things like "phwoooaaarrr Nige, super speedway!" Anyway, in light of them mis-leading you around "an hotel" maybe you can ger a refund? I don't need to apologise for being right in my comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I don't need to apologise for being right in my comments.you certainly dont need to apologise. But you haven't been able to provide the grammar rule you think you are following when you use "an hotel" whereas others have been able to prove justification for "a hotel."Not sure how we got here from discussions on visas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I don't need to apologise for being right in my comments.The OED site suggests that you should use "a hotel" but "an hotel" was the correct form in the 18th and 19th century....Are you much older than you are letting on? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 alex davies is the one i feel for the most, was shafted basically last season by somerset with his visa much the same as sam master's previously had to sit out last season on a 7+ avg, now due to missing last season through no fault of his own could miss out again. What absolute nonsense, it's that kind of 'understanding' of the situation that has brought Speedway to the position it's in now. When a rider leaves a club, or is left out of the team, and then goes to ride for another team, it is the new clubs responsibility to become the sponsor for that rider, even though he may be an asset of another club. In both cases, when they were left out of the team, I believe Somerset's responsibility towards them, as far as the UKV&I are concerned, was to inform them (the UKV&I) that they no longer rode for the club. Any new visa application after that should be overseen by their new club, as they then became their sponsors when applying for a new visa. In Alex Davies' case it is my understanding that his deal fell through at Plymouth, because they (Plymouth) did not have the required sponsors license, therefore could not sign Alex. Had he gone to another club, with a sponsors license, things may have turned out differently. So to say they were shafted by Somerset, is complete and utter garbage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 So, kicking out a few Aussies has meant that 1 Brit (Nathan Greaves) and 1 Naturalised Brit (Rusty Harrison) have got jobs. It's working so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) is that in an official capacity, ie applied and recieved from the relevant authority or just that he has lived here for a long time, quite a big difference that is very relevant to ukvi.Indeed 'Domicile' has a very specific meaning in tax law and in immigration law too. So to say someone is 'longtime' domiciled is redundant as the concept doesn't encompass the short term. I strongly doubt that Rusty Harrison was domiciled in the UK as he intended to pack up and return to Australia - he would though have been ordinarily resident (at least for tax purposes). For example tax avoider Lewis Hamilton is not resident or ordinarily resident in the UK, but is almost certainly still UK domiciled. A person starts with a domicile of birth, but can acquire a domicile of choice. However it requires more than just moving, or getting a new passport, as it is about where you intend to end up permanently, and emotional identification. Tai Woffinden has a UK domicile of birth, but ultimate domicile will depend on the answers to questions such as: * where do you expect to live on retiring? * where do you want to be burried? * which countries emblem do you have tattooed on your body? Edited February 5, 2015 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doners1234 Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 What absolute nonsense, it's that kind of 'understanding' of the situation that has brought Speedway to the position it's in now. When a rider leaves a club, or is left out of the team, and then goes to ride for another team, it is the new clubs responsibility to become the sponsor for that rider, even though he may be an asset of another club. In both cases, when they were left out of the team, I believe Somerset's responsibility towards them, as far as the UKV&I are concerned, was to inform them (the UKV&I) that they no longer rode for the club. Any new visa application after that should be overseen by their new club, as they then became their sponsors when applying for a new visa. In Alex Davies' case it is my understanding that his deal fell through at Plymouth, because they (Plymouth) did not have the required sponsors license, therefore could not sign Alex. Had he gone to another club, with a sponsors license, things may have turned out differently. So to say they were shafted by Somerset, is complete and utter garbage. This is wrong, We, Plymouth, tried to sign Alex but was rejected on a tier two visa therefore like Doyle and one other ride (forgot name) we applied to get him in on a tier 5 visa !! This got rejected because NO rider should have been allowed in on a tier 5 visa. And the UKVI held there hands up and aploagised for this error. They only noticed this after they had granted The other 2 riders acces and therefore could not reject/reverse them as they were already signed and done but rejected Alexs because they noticed whilst the paperwork was being sorted between themselves and Plymouth. Maybe had Plymouth worked earlier He would have come over and lecister may never have got Doyle. The BSPA have now hoever appplied to be given a tier 5 visa as a gouverninig body and this should make this hole process alot easier. This in turn will mean clubs will have to apply for tier 5 status for them to grant it to riders. But the first step is for BSPA to get it then the clubs will be allowed it. I noticed this at the end of the official statment on the SGB website about visas.... No exceptions or extensions will be granted to riders failing to achieve the averages except in the case of injury, medical evidence of which must be supplied. This will probably save Poole and Proctor so i should imagine Sheffield will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 What the hells all this?countdown ?am I On the wrong thread? If not can I have one from the top two from the middle and one from the bottom please rschel 781,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 This is wrong, We, Plymouth, tried to sign Alex but was rejected on a tier two visa therefore like Doyle and one other ride (forgot name) we applied to get him in on a tier 5 visa !! This got rejected because NO rider should have been allowed in on a tier 5 visa. And the UKVI held there hands up and aploagised for this error. They only noticed this after they had granted The other 2 riders acces and therefore could not reject/reverse them as they were already signed and done but rejected Alexs because they noticed whilst the paperwork was being sorted between themselves and Plymouth. Maybe had Plymouth worked earlier He would have come over and lecister may never have got Doyle. The BSPA have now hoever appplied to be given a tier 5 visa as a gouverninig body and this should make this hole process alot easier. This in turn will mean clubs will have to apply for tier 5 status for them to grant it to riders. But the first step is for BSPA to get it then the clubs will be allowed it. I noticed this at the end of the official statment on the SGB website about visas.... This will probably save Poole and Proctor so i should imagine Sheffield will be ok. Taken from This is Plymouth confirms Wombles Post CITY speedway team Plymouth Devils could lose two of their top riders over an immigration visa wrangle. Australian junior champion Jack Holder and American Ryan Fisher could be prevented from joining their team-mates at the St Boniface Arena following an investigation by UK immigration officials. That investigation is said to have uncovered irregularities by clubs applying for their Certificate of Sponsorship Licence in the past. That licence grants UK clubs the right to 'import' riders from outside the European Union. UK visa officials, in the light of their investigations, have implemented a blanket ban on the use of Certificate of Sponsorship licences for the import of riders from countries like Australia and America. The one chink of light in the tunnel is that Plymouth – as a new company taken over less than two years ago – have never been granted a licence in the past. News of the blanket ban affecting other clubs came on the day Plymouth were told they would, in fact, be granted a licence. They have now been told unofficially that the Holder deal should be ratified without any problems. However, Devils' team manager Lee Trigger has also been told that Fisher, who holds a three-year visa, might have to re-apply. The whole mess is likely to be sorted out one way or the other tomorrow, when UK speedway chiefs will meet with immigration officials to hammer out a way forward. Trigger, meanwhile, is in the dark over what might happen to his two riders. "I don't know where I am," he admitted yesterday. "Technically, we've been told that since we've never had a Certificate of Sponsorship Licence we won't be affected, since clearly we can't have done anything wrong. "On the day that every other team had their licence revoked, we got the licence we had applied for four weeks previously. "Technically, because of that, we're the only team in the UK who can go ahead and import someone. "But there's all sorts of things going around, like the fact that we might have to go with six-man teams instead of seven, because there might not be enough riders to go around. "It's difficult to know what to do – get working on getting riders in who are British to make sure we've got a team, or wait for a bit to get the two I really want? "We needed one more rider to complete our team before all this happened. "But as it stands I could end up needing three. Ryan is our number one this year and if he has got to apply for a new visa , I could be looking for a new number one." Read more: http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Immigration-problems-hold-possible-additions/story-25942449-detail/story.html#ixzz3QqwbaMFQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Well that's made 'Doners' look abit silly. Thanks for the info IDH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Incorrect :-) The letter h is a consonant. When a word begins with a hard consonant sound you would use 'a', not 'an'. So it is 'a hotel'. If the h is silent, eg with the word 'hour', you would then use 'an'. A hotel. An hour. I went to a Grammar school. I know this stuff!! ...and I said almost exactly the same a few pages back (minus the grammer school bit lol) Tbh Grachan I doubt if some will listen to you either! lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 But alex himself in an interview in the star blamed somerset for mucking him about one minute wanting him the next not throught the 13/14 close season which stopped any other club from applying for his visa until it was too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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