ZODIAK Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Didn't Ellis ride for Lakeside last year, that didn't stop him riding in the PL for Ipswich, from reading his column in last weeks Speedway Star its pretty clear Ellis thought he would be going back to Ipswich, sadly for him that didn't happen and by the time he found out most teams were all but full. Hopefully he will get a PL place either by team changes due to the bother certain riders are having with visa`s or when the PL gets going a teams find their riders aren't quite as good as they thought they were. You're right it didn't, but the amount of times he was missing was tiresome. Hard for Ellis to miss out after he thought he was signing for Ipswich again, but in Louis' defence from what I've heard, Louis thought he wouldn't be riding for Lakeside again either. Missing so many meetings again obviously didn't appeal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILYRAG Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 He just went into the first bend a little too hot and clipped Birkinshaw's back wheel causing them both to go down heavily. JB was going round the outside of him on bend two and Smith turned right and t-boned him , he can go to hell for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 JB was going round the outside of him on bend two and Smith turned right and t-boned him , he can go to hell for me. You're miles off. I think you must have your incidents mixed up. Or been on the heavy stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jesus ,you fill an encyclopaedia with riders who have had each other off never mind the ones who should not have a visa because of it.!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jesus ,you fill an encyclopaedia with riders who have had each other off never mind the ones who should not have a visa because of it.!!!!!! Not good if riders who shouldn't have a visa or in effect are riding illegally are having people off though is it? There would be a massive outcry in any other sector if illegal workers were causing others injury.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 There would be a massive outcry in any other sector if illegal workers were causing others injury.. They would be headlines in the Daily Mail... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 JB was going round the outside of him on bend two and Smith turned right and t-boned him , he can go to hell for me. I think your description sums up how much of a clue you've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Lemo on his riders re visa's: http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/3935/aussies-to-look-elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Alex is hopeful - http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/speedway/monarchs-sure-aussie-aces-will-be-granted-work-visas-1-3672706 Lot of other sports involved too (27!!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Lemo on his riders re visa's: http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/3935/aussies-to-look-elsewhere Some of the big names would do OK but it's unlikely that the Poles and Swedes would allow a situation like here, where they come over and basically learn. Anyway Harkess seems to think it's all sorted now. This could actually be a good thing and co-operation between the two parties should now be improved (hopefully). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Alex is hopeful - http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/speedway/monarchs-sure-aussie-aces-will-be-granted-work-visas-1-3672706 Lot of other sports involved too (27!!). Irrelevant.. and he doesn't actually say they are involved. He says they are responsible for 27 sports. It's just more blame deflection., Edited January 29, 2015 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alang Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 If Mr Harkess says as quoted in that article that new regulations were brought in in April and November and unless you had gone through the small print you wouldn't know what was happening then as chairman of the BSPA surely he is showing negligence in his duties,alongwith other members of the BSPA,by not reading the small print.Whose responsibility is it, if not the people who are supposed to run the sport,to check all this out and then advise others of these decisions?You can't blame the authorities for changing the rules if you then can't be arsed to properly read them. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 If Mr Harkess says as quoted in that article that new regulations were brought in in April and November and unless you had gone through the small print you wouldn't know what was happening then as chairman of the BSPA surely he is showing negligence in his duties,alongwith other members of the BSPA,by not reading the small print.Whose responsibility is it, if not the people who are supposed to run the sport,to check all this out and then advise others of these decisions?You can't blame the authorities for changing the rules if you then can't be arsed to properly read them. but we never have rule changes in speedway oh come to think of it we do but only ever hear of them when someone breaks them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 If Mr Harkess says as quoted in that article that new regulations were brought in in April and November and unless you had gone through the small print you wouldn't know what was happening then as chairman of the BSPA surely he is showing negligence in his duties,alongwith other members of the BSPA,by not reading the small print.Whose responsibility is it, if not the people who are supposed to run the sport,to check all this out and then advise others of these decisions?You can't blame the authorities for changing the rules if you then can't be arsed to properly read them.as others have pointed out, the rules around visa elegibility have been unchanged for 5 years, and those rules have been breached. If there are new rules also breached thst jst makes it worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Irrelevant.. and he doesn't actually say they are involved. He says they are responsible for 27 sports. It's just more blame deflection., He also says 'unless you went through the small print in detail' - which gives the impression that Edinburgh clearly didn't. How naive is that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 He also says 'unless you went through the small print in detail' - which gives the impression that Edinburgh clearly didn't. How naive is that. FFS - I've been through it in detail over the years and it's not difficult to understand (as indeed SCB has also been saying). They're just compounding their idiocy/blatant abuse of the regulations by claiming otherwise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Could do a deal with the Border Agency, make them League sponsor in return for 25 visas in a brown envelope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Could do a deal with the Border Agency, make them League sponsor in return for 25 visas in a brown envelope. Sounds about right as the Border Agency don't exist... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 He also says 'unless you went through the small print in detail' - which gives the impression that Edinburgh clearly didn't. How naive is that. Ignorance is not a defence in law either. You're expect to know or employ someone who does know so can stop you breaking the law. The top guy at the BSPA has just made the sport sound more amateur than ever now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Any information about whether the issue is sorted yet and who can come to ride here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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