Alan_Jones Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 One thing not being talked about is the (perhaps-mythical) need for a rider at PL level to achieve a 7-point average. When this was first introduced, CMAs included bonus points. Should there not be a lowering of the barrier, or could bonus points be reintroduced to rolling averages, giving the CMA of a rider involved in a team sport a truer reflection of his worth and abilities? As I've pointed out before, from 2001-2004 it was 8 points (5 EL). In 2005 it was dropped to 7 points (4.5 EL) which I suspect is when bonus points were dropped from GSAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 They do at the moment. There are constantly evolving immigration laws going on, as the government try to keep immigration figures down to get hte UKIP vote.This is what it's all about, basically. Making things tougher so that figure can be quoted at those who moan about immigrants. Because, like it or not, that is what Australian Speedway Riders are, even if they do have white skin and speak English.It's tough on riders, but it's even tougher on married couples, many of whom are being kept apart by new immigration rules.Fair Point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Fair Point. I wonder what Australia's immigrations criteria is on British Subjects going to there Country and working for seven months of the year, then going back home. Edited January 22, 2015 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I wonder what Australia's immigrations criteria is on British Subjects going to there Country and working for seven months of the year, then going back home.Thats their problem,is it not,nothing to do with this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The statement is up; http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.28207 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The Aussies threw out English journalists covering the Ashes, mid Tour, for not having the correct visa, hopefully the Ozzie's are just the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The Aussies threw out English journalists covering the Ashes, mid Tour, for not having the correct visa, hopefully the Ozzie's are just the start.incorrect. Their 90 day visas ran out. They tried to apply for an extension but didn't realize they had to leave the country first to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Here's some solid info; http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=2383 Alex "The Thunder" Davies is a Scunny Legend for me already. Just have a read of that letter; super intelligent, well crafted words; clear understanding of his situation, thorough explanation. Clearing wanting to connect with the Scunny fans and looking forward to the new speedway season here. In fact just exactly the sort of person who we should be laying out the Red Carpet to. Never mind sending him and Ryan through a bureaucratic nightmare. Let me say this; there's nobody at the UKBA better qualified to decided who crosses these shores than ME! if I were on that watch trust me there's none of these terrorist looking types getting past me. But when Alex and Ryan stroll up all they have to say is "G'day mate I'm Ryan and I'm Alex were from Oz" ...so what you here for lads ? ..errr we're professional Speedway Riders ....right lads that's what they all say a couple of Track Terrorists if ever there were two! ....ONLY JOKING LADS NO NEED TO SAY OWT ELSE YER IN!. Edited January 22, 2015 by the outsider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Swindon sheds a bit more light on the situation herehttp://www.swindonlinksport.com/2015/01/22/russell-vows-to-do-everything-he-can-to-resolve-visa-problems/ http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2015/01/22/batchelor-hit-by-visa-issues-but-bspa-hopeful-of-resolution/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 For most Australians these days the UK is not their mother country, and I don't see why the descendants of people who chose to leave the country several generations ago should be given special privileges. There would be a few Australians from way back who would argue about that if they were still alive. On this issue - I still cannot forget all of the 'Anzacs' who gave their lives for this Country in two World Wars - Gallipoli springs to mind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sounds like just a flex of muscles from new agency and wake up call to promoters to get house in order. With the offer to run workshops it will resolve itself in time for season. Every club knows the new conditions/regulations so its time for a more structured approach from all members of b.s.p.a to ensure all clubs/riders now strictly adhere to ukvi expectations. From a riders point of view it must be a worry incase the promoters cant pass the workshop but lets hope they can. The amature approach has to go and some sort of independent body or group take control and let the promoters just eh...promote. Each club must now have a club administrator who only deals with these delicate issues and keeps records of any change to visa regulations. Having a working relationship with ukvi and building good understanding of sport/visa requirements is whats needed and is probably easy to do. Wish all riders involved make it over for march cause league will suffer without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sounds like just a flex of muscles from new agency and wake up call to promoters to get house in order. With the offer to run workshops it will resolve itself in time for season. Every club knows the new conditions/regulations so its time for a more structured approach from all members of b.s.p.a to ensure all clubs/riders now strictly adhere to ukvi expectations. From a riders point of view it must be a worry incase the promoters cant pass the workshop but lets hope they can. The amature approach has to go and some sort of independent body or group take control and let the promoters just eh...promote. Each club must now have a club administrator who only deals with these delicate issues and keeps records of any change to visa regulations. Having a working relationship with ukvi and building good understanding of sport/visa requirements is whats needed and is probably easy to do. Wish all riders involved make it over for march cause league will suffer without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sounds like just a flex of muscles from new agency and wake up call to promoters to get house in order. With the offer to run workshops it will resolve itself in time for season. Every club knows the new conditions/regulations so its time for a more structured approach from all members of b.s.p.a to ensure all clubs/riders now strictly adhere to ukvi expectations. From a riders point of view it must be a worry incase the promoters cant pass the workshop but lets hope they can. The amature approach has to go and some sort of independent body or group take control and let the promoters just eh...promote. Each club must now have a club administrator who only deals with these delicate issues and keeps records of any change to visa regulations. Having a working relationship with ukvi and building good understanding of sport/visa requirements is whats needed and is probably easy to do. Wish all riders involved make it over for march cause league will suffer without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sounds like just a flex of muscles from new agency and wake up call to promoters to get house in order. With the offer to run workshops it will resolve itself in time for season. Every club knows the new conditions/regulations so its time for a more structured approach from all members of b.s.p.a to ensure all clubs/riders now strictly adhere to ukvi expectations. From a riders point of view it must be a worry incase the promoters cant pass the workshop but lets hope they can. The amature approach has to go and some sort of independent body or group take control and let the promoters just eh...promote. Each club must now have a club administrator who only deals with these delicate issues and keeps records of any change to visa regulations. Having a working relationship with ukvi and building good understanding of sport/visa requirements is whats needed and is probably easy to do. Wish all riders involved make it over for march cause league will suffer without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sounds like just a flex of muscles from new agency and wake up call to promoters to get house in order. With the offer to run workshops it will resolve itself in time for season. Every club knows the new conditions/regulations so its time for a more structured approach from all members of b.s.p.a to ensure all clubs/riders now strictly adhere to ukvi expectations. From a riders point of view it must be a worry incase the promoters cant pass the workshop but lets hope they can. The amature approach has to go and some sort of independent body or group take control and let the promoters just eh...promote. Each club must now have a club administrator who only deals with these delicate issues and keeps records of any change to visa regulations. Having a working relationship with ukvi and building good understanding of sport/visa requirements is whats needed and is probably easy to do. Wish all riders involved make it over for march cause league will suffer without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sounds like just a flex of muscles from new agency and wake up call to promoters to get house in order. With the offer to run workshops it will resolve itself in time for season. Every club knows the new conditions/regulations so its time for a more structured approach from all members of b.s.p.a to ensure all clubs/riders now strictly adhere to ukvi expectations. From a riders point of view it must be a worry incase the promoters cant pass the workshop but lets hope they can. The amature approach has to go and some sort of independent body or group take control and let the promoters just eh...promote. Each club must now have a club administrator who only deals with these delicate issues and keeps records of any change to visa regulations. Having a working relationship with ukvi and building good understanding of sport/visa requirements is whats needed and is probably easy to do. Wish all riders involved make it over for march cause league will suffer without them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sounds like just a flex of muscles from new agency and wake up call to promoters to get house in order. With the offer to run workshops it will resolve itself in time for season. Every club knows the new conditions/regulations so its time for a more structured approach from all members of b.s.p.a to ensure all clubs/riders now strictly adhere to ukvi expectations. From a riders point of view it must be a worry incase the promoters cant pass the workshop but lets hope they can. The amature approach has to go and some sort of independent body or group take control and let the promoters just eh...promote. Each club must now have a club administrator who only deals with these delicate issues and keeps records of any change to visa regulations. Having a working relationship with ukvi and building good understanding of sport/visa requirements is whats needed and is probably easy to do. Wish all riders involved make it over for march cause league will suffer without them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Update/comment from Edinburgh site............. http://www.edinburghmonarchs.co/news/article.asp?id=1921&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Thats their problem,is it not,nothing to do with this thread. My point is we make it to easy for them to come over for seven months of the year, jump into a job, that in fact a British subject can do, is it not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 There would be a few Australians from way back who would argue about that if they were still alive. On this issue - I still cannot forget all of the 'Anzacs' who gave their lives for this Country in two World Wars - Gallipoli springs to mind. That was then, this is now. Plenty of Brits died fighting for Australia as well, but it doesn't get us any special favours Down Under, and many Australians now originate from countries that didn't commit to any side. Of course this is all a bit daft, but it's the consequence of 'cracking down on immigration' as you advocate elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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