What The Visa Issues Could Mean For Teams.

[The White Knight]

Anybody got a 'Link' to the source of this Information please?

[mdmc82]

Which EL clubs will this effect or are all the riders already signed okay to ride here?

[TheScotsman]

So chop out the aussies who live here during the season, spending money which helps the economy, and pay their vat if not other taxes.

 

And replace them with EU riders who fly in and out for each meeting and don't spend money here.

 

Hardly helps the country.

 

And I doubt there are 20+ British riders of an equivalent standard who don't have a team place and are waiting for the phone call.

 

Not a good situation at all.

 

Maybe the 42.5 limit will have to be reviewed and a lower figure introduced.

 

So all teams would then be affected.

[CardinalSin]

So chop out the aussies who live here during the season, spending money which helps the economy, and pay their vat if not other taxes.

 

And replace them with EU riders who fly in and out for each meeting and don't spend money here.

 

Hardly helps the country.

 

And I doubt there are 20+ British riders of an equivalent standard who don't have a team place and are waiting for the phone call.

 

Not a good situation at all.

 

Maybe the 42.5 limit will have to be reviewed and a lower figure introduced.

 

So all teams would then be affected.

Might have to start again from scratch! This could get messy, right down to the supporters demanding refunds on their season tickets for not getting the product that was advertised!

[drew2]

Seem to recall hearing somewhere that Josh G may have a Polish passport??

[XTC38L]

Seem to recall hearing somewhere that Josh G may have a Polish passport??

yes

[Jonny the spud]

getting popcorn out and sitting back to watch the fallout on here in the next few days.

 

should be fun !

[baba]

Why why why this sucks.

[yoda]

Heard that the visa's have been cancelled and need to re-apply , and will need to meet the criteria set by borders agency

 

Ie must have finished in the top 4 of a state championship or have an average over 7

 

Or be the national champion or under 21 champion

 

If this is true then it will only effect a few, and a lot of scaremongering in the process .

[thebaron]

Let me just get this right; there 22 speedway riders (absolutely integral to the success of speedway in this country) barred from entering what is their Mother Country. What has HM Queen to say about this; lets be straight to the point I have more in common with Ryan Douglas than the 22000 illegals(and more) from the EU and Third World trudging the streets of Bradford. So what the hell is going on with the UKBA to bar skilled Commonwealth citizens from working here.

 

Speedways not just any old job; we cannot find 22 riders of their standard just off the cuff. I would fiercely contend that their absence seriously damages Speedway PLC in the UK and each individual promotion that employed them. Where can Scunny find two riders to replace Ryan Douglas and Alex Davies.

 

A guy I work with his son; announced he was off to Australia at Christmas; packs his bags and flies to Sydney. Only got A Levels and has found a job already he's no specialised skills or qualifications; but the Aussies have not kicked him out. What sort of Visa would he need to bum around in Oz for a year. My neice works in Sydney has done for two years. She has a degree in Sociology and works in their equivalent of BUPA in administration what sort of Visa is that?. So why are we discriminating against Australians.

 

Think about football and all the useless EU and African players that rock up here; end up sitting around on benches on ££££s then disappear. How the hell do they get in.

 

This needs taking to the highest level of protest; the Queen as far as I am aware is the Head of the Commonwealth; and has the power to over rule the useless UKBA. As far as I am aware the Commonwealth still exists (it did for the games last summer anyway) so I cannot see how the UKBA can prevent the free movement of Commonwealth citizens from one country to another provided they have a viable occupation to go to or can secure work on arrival.

 

I am spitting feathers about this; I bloody am.

Edited January 22, 2015 by the outsider

[doners1234]

Heard that the visa's have been cancelled and need to re-apply , and will need to meet the criteria set by borders agency

 

Ie must have finished in the top 4 of a state championship or have an average over 7

 

Or be the national champion or under 21 champion

 

If this is true then it will only effect a few, and a lot of scaremongering in the process .

Does this include an average of 7.00 ?!?

If not could it be the first time ever teams would ask the BSPA to re asses the riders and add 0.01 to there average to allow them in ?!?

[XTC38L]

Heard that the visa's have been cancelled and need to re-apply , and will need to meet the criteria set by borders agency

Ie must have finished in the top 4 of a state championship or have an average over 7

Or be the national champion or under 21 champion

If this is true then it will only effect a few, and a lot of scaremongering in the process .

the visa have been canceled but the big problem is the sponsorship licenses have been removed aswell. Without them the clubs cant apply for visas

[thebaron]

WTF do the UKBA know about Speedway? have they any idea what a 7pt average is. I have this picture of some jobs worth tasked with researching what speedway is then coming up with some ludicrous notions as to how he see's it running.

 

Get me back to the 40-50's when all the Aussies came over on boats for the season with their bikes and the carpet was rolled out at Passport Control. Or the 70's when Les Whaley brought Bradford with Brenton Langlois, Rob Maxfield and Mike Fullerton for the 73 season.

 

The Aussies/New Zealanders ARE US for Christ's sake; half of them were sent out on boats as the £10 Pom's from the UK in the 60's or are related to someone who was.

 

Angry! you bet I am.

Edited January 22, 2015 by the outsider

[me2]

They could say they're alchoholic wasters from Ukraine coming to claim benefits and the government will welcome them with open arms.

Tell them you're coming here FROM A COMMONWEALTH COUNTRY for part of the year to earn your keep and spend what you earn in this country and they'll slam the door in your face.

You could put them all in one bus for fecks sake. It's not like there's thousands of them.

[thebaron]

the visa have been canceled but the big problem is the sponsorship licenses have been removed aswell. Without them the clubs cant apply for visas

What is a sponsorship licence? - is that some sort of authorisation to employ someone from another country in your business. Because there's a chap down the road from us runs a Pizza place and I bet he ain't got no sponsors licence for three dodgy looking characters round the back dishing up the pizzas.

Edited January 22, 2015 by the outsider

[XTC38L]

Its what the clubs require to employ non eu sportsmen. The big question is why they were removed??? If things weren't above board at the bspa id say thats a pretty likely reason.

[Islander15]

getting popcorn out and sitting back to watch the fallout on here in the next few days.

 

should be fun !

Any chance of Adam riding PL? As an EU rider of course

[SCB]

WTF do the UKBA know about Speedway? have they any idea what a 7pt average is. I have this picture of some jobs worth tasked with researching what speedway is then coming up with some ludicrous notions as to how he see's it running.

Clearly more than the BSPA when it comes to working out who is or isn't top class. Letys be honest, theres not a single rider listed in the first post that is "World class" is there? So none of them should have a work permit. Why are we letting in rubbish riders who add very little? Grajzonek and Fisher are the only two close to it.

 

 

Incidently, I think Kurtz has GB nationality in him somewhere. His brother certainly had dual Nationality.

[speedway102285]

Let me just get this right; there 22 speedway riders (absolutely integral to the success of speedway in this country) barred from entering what is their Mother Country. What has HM Queen to say about this; lets be straight to the point I have more in common with Ryan Douglas than the 22000 illegals(and more) from the EU and Third World trudging the streets of Bradford. So what the hell is going on with the UKBA to bar skilled Commonwealth citizens from working here.

 

Speedways not just any old job; we cannot find 22 riders of their standard just off the cuff. I would fiercely contend that their absence seriously damages Speedway PLC in the UK and each individual promotion that employed them. Where can Scunny find two riders to replace Ryan Douglas and Alex Davies.

 

A guy I work with his son; announced he was off to Australia at Christmas; packs his bags and flies to Sydney. Only got A Levels and has found a job already he's no specialised skills or qualifications; but the Aussies have not kicked him out. What sort of Visa would he need to bum around in Oz for a year. My neice works in Sydney has done for two years. She has a degree in Sociology and works in their equivalent of BUPA in administration what sort of Visa is that?. So why are we discriminating against Australians.

 

Think about football and all the useless EU and African players that rock up here; end up sitting around on benches on ££££s then disappear. How the hell do they get in.

 

This needs taking to the highest level of protest; the Queen as far as I am aware is the Head of the Commonwealth; and has the power to over rule the useless UKBA. As far as I am aware the Commonwealth still exists (it did for the games last summer anyway) so I cannot see how the UKBA can prevent the free movement of Commonwealth citizens from one country to another provided they have a viable occupation to go to or can secure work on arrival.

 

I am spitting feathers about this; I bloody am.

Total drivel, before "spitting feathers" read up on the facts !!

[Islander15]

Clearly more than the BSPA when it comes to working out who is or isn't top class. Letys be honest, theres not a single rider listed in the first post that is "World class" is there? So none of them should have a work permit. Why are we letting in rubbish riders who add very little? Grajzonek and Fisher are the only two close to it.

 

 

Incidently, I think Kurtz has GB nationality in him somewhere. His brother certainly had dual Nationality.

Clearly more than the BSPA when it comes to working out who is or isn't top class. Letys be honest, theres not a single rider listed in the first post that is "World class" is there? So none of them should have a work permit. Why are we letting in rubbish riders who add very little? Grajzonek and Fisher are the only two close to it.

 

 

Incidently, I think Kurtz has GB nationality in him somewhere. His brother certainly had dual Nationality.

Todd does so I assume Brady does also. Heeps does as well don't forget.