waiheke1 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Is this really going to have much impact? Can't see any of the overseas players in the Premier League (except perhaps Winston Reid?) being affected. sounds like it will make it impossible for kiwis and some Africans to play in UK, but easier for players from top south American and non eu European nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just reading the article on the argentine girl who is possibly coming over for practice /second half's. Personally no problem with this but how will a visa be given when the usa "dream" team couldn't get any arranged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just reading the article on the argentine girl who is possibly coming over for practice /second half's. Personally no problem with this but how will a visa be given when the usa "dream" team couldn't get any arranged. Perhaps she's the top rider in Argentina. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Lot of Argies have Italian passports I think.Maybe she has one or can get one.Read that Italian workers used to work 6 months in Europe and then go to Argentina to work there in the European winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Is this really going to have much impact? Can't see any of the overseas players in the Premier League (except perhaps Winston Reid?) being affected. sounds like it will make it impossible for kiwis and some Africans to play in UK, but easier for players from top south American and non eu European nations. Minimal, of 24 transfers in the last three seasons between Non-EU Countries and our PL, if the new criteria was being used it would only have affected eights transfers. Part of the problem will be many Brazilians have connections with Portugal and could have dual nationalities, same with some Argentinians having links with Italy. But I suppose it is at least a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Minimal, of 24 transfers in the last three seasons between Non-EU Countries and our PL, if the new criteria was being used it would only have affected eights transfers. Part of the problem will be many Brazilians have connections with Portugal and could have dual nationalities, same with some Argentinians having links with Italy. But I suppose it is at least a start. Well something needs to be done - the Premiership, and other Leagues seem to have totally changed in character to what they used to be. NOT for the better either. :mad: Edited March 24, 2015 by The White Knight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Well something needs to be done - the Premiership, and other Leagues seem to have totally changed in character to what they used to be. NOT for the better either. :mad: Whether its Non EU players, or players from the EU, its the journeymen players who are in the squads and don't play, they are the one who you could argue are clogging up a place that might be given to a home grown player. Must admit though I have always thought if your good enough you will get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Whether its Non EU players, or players from the EU, its the journeymen players who are in the squads and don't play, they are the one who you could argue are clogging up a place that might be given to a home grown player. Must admit though I have always thought if your good enough you will get there. i agree with this statement to a point - however it could be argued that they don't get the intial chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Whether its Non EU players, or players from the EU, its the journeymen players who are in the squads and don't play, they are the one who you could argue are clogging up a place that might be given to a home grown player. Must admit though I have always thought if your good enough you will get there. i agree with this statement to a point - however it could be argued that they don't get the intial chance I'm afraid that I do not agree with that statement. You only have to look at Chelsea. They have an Academy - what the hell for? They rarely if ever get through to the First Team these days and if Mourinho is short of a Player - he doesn't look at Academy Players generally - he just buys somebody else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm afraid that I do not agree with that statement. You only have to look at Chelsea. They have an Academy - what the hell for? They rarely if ever get through to the First Team these days and if Mourinho is short of a Player - he doesn't look at Academy Players generally - he just buys somebody else. You could be right, though apart from Daniel Sturridge who has failed to make it at Chelsea but has gone to another PL club and been a regular first team player in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 yes we have one at Boro - Patrick Bamford - he's fantastic but whether he ever gets a chance at Chelsea..... in one way i hope he doesn't and gets to stay with us in the PL of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I see football has announced plans to restrict the number of non EU players. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32024808 Can't help but wonder if this is part of the same issue being dressed up as an FA decision. It makes me laugh when they use the excuse about having a competitive national team, all the while forgetting to mention that England have been rubbishe for nearly 50 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) It makes me laugh when they use the excuse about having a competitive national team, all the while forgetting to mention that England have been rubbishe for nearly 50 years. Excluding of course the Robson days with Shearer and Bryan Robson, so it's not true. Edited March 24, 2015 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Excluding of course the Robson days with Shearer and Bryan Robson, so it's not true. but still nowt to show for it :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Excluding of course the Robson days with Shearer and Bryan Robson, so it's not true.though neither bryan Robson or Shearer ever made a world cup semi final.I don't think it's fair to say England are rubbish, but they are a tenth in the world type side, not world beaters, and that has been the case pretty much my whole lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 though neither bryan Robson or Shearer ever made a world cup semi final. I don't think it's fair to say England are rubbish, but they are a tenth in the world type side, not world beaters, and that has been the case pretty much my whole lifetime. England are normally poo at most sports,,, apart from 'pub sports' like darts, snooker, or skittles,,, a wonder why, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 though neither bryan Robson or Shearer ever made a world cup semi final. I don't think it's fair to say England are rubbish, but they are a tenth in the world type side, not world beaters, and that has been the case pretty much my whole lifetime. That of course was my point, instead of making a sweeping statement like MattK did. With Beardsley, Adams, Liniker, Gazza, Shearer, Robson, etc, we had decent players, and we were unlucky with penalty shootouts, 'hand of god', etc. We kept missing out at the final hurdle, despite being unlucky through things like Bryan Robson's shoulder probs in Mexico ? Compare that era/s with our current position and we were in the running then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 That of course was my point, instead of making a sweeping statement like MattK did. With Beardsley, Adams, Liniker, Gazza, Shearer, Robson, etc, we had decent players, and we were unlucky with penalty shootouts, 'hand of god', etc. We kept missing out at the final hurdle, despite being unlucky through things like Bryan Robson's shoulder probs in Mexico ? Compare that era/s with our current position and we were in the running then. Despite all those players, the best we achieved was one semi final. However, the point I am making is that England have qualified for the last five WCs, despite foreigners "flooding" the leagues and qualification being arguably harder now than in the 70s, when there were less foreigners in the England leagues AND we failed to make the WC finals twice. The suggestion that limiting foreigners will improve English standards has no foundation in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 You could be right, though apart from Daniel Sturridge who has failed to make it at Chelsea but has gone to another PL club and been a regular first team player in the first team. Sturridge went to the Manchester City academy, not that it makes much difference, as he didn't really get a go there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Excluding of course the Robson days with Shearer and Bryan Robson, so it's not true. Although Shearer never played under Robson for England and amazingly a talent like Bryan Robson was never even capped (The White Knight should hopefully understand that one). But despite being pedantic (apologies ... it's late !!!) I understand the point you are making 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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