ruffdiamond Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Perhaps if they came from certain other parts of the World there wouldn't be a problem. We seem to take anybody, it seems, but not American or Australian Speedway Riders who have means of supporting themselves. :rolleyes: It's a bloody disgrace. :angry: 'settle' lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 just heard on BBC1 that they are looking at giving commonwealth citizens the same rights as EEC citizens !!! you couldn't make it up !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 just heard on BBC1 that they are looking at giving commonwealth citizens the same rights as EEC citizens !!! you couldn't make it up !!! Who are? UKIP plan to, along with everyone else. UKIP want every treated exactly the same and they want to stop the rubbish but allow the top guys. That'd be bad news for PL Aussies as I see it, as they're not the top guys UKIP want. I doubt any other party* is saying the same as they're all taking a "foreigner bad" line at present due to the emergence of UKIP. *I've discounted the Greens as they stand no chance of any sort of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.28430 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.28430 "a rider returning to the UK must have achieved an Elite League CMA of 6.25 or a Premier League CMA of 7.00" A bit of an imbalance there, surely? Edited March 4, 2015 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) "a rider returning to the UK must have achieved an Elite League CMA of 6.25 or a Premier League CMA of 7.00" A bit of an imbalance there, surely? The problem is the messed up EL format that creates an imbalance. 6.25 is easy to get as a second string all year but not so easy as a heatleader. Also suggests that Alex Davies and Kozza Smith should NOT have work permits. Edited March 4, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 The problem is the messed up EL format that creates an imbalance. 6.25 is easy to get as a second string all year but not so easy as a heatleader. It should be 6.00. So many riders got over 5 without breaking sweat, but getting to 6 is a bit more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Has Ty Proctor finished top 4 of a state final the last 2 seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Has Ty Proctor finished top 4 of a state final the last 2 seasons?beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Can Aussies double up then if on a tier 2 Visa? Or have i just read it wrong. So after reading that it looks like Smith, Davies and Proctor might not qualify. Edited March 4, 2015 by Mr Blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lee Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.28430 The good news: BSPA being more open and keeping the public informed for a change The bad news: Nobody at BSPA Towers can spell LicenSed Can't have everything, I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Nice as it is to have clarification of the new rules, it's speedway, so there are still questions and contradictions. I'm surprised that with all the non-compliance that caused the current situation the time frame for qualification has been relaxed to 2 years, which is what lets Holder and presumably Manzares now qualify. I assume that the National/State qualification criteria remain the same, as the GBE page is still on the BSPA web site with reference to 2009 removed, and this becomes the Appendix 1 that is referred to in the new Sponsored Migrants Policy, although it still currently shows the qualifying averages as 4 & 7. Tier 2 holders only being able to guest within the league in which they are contracted but also being able to double up seems to be a contradiction. It's also surprising that Tier 5 visas are now a valid option whereas in the recent past the UKVI rules restricted the BSPA to Tier 2 sponsorship only. I'd assumed that the granting of Tier 5 visas last year was just a quick fix for riders that had been caught out by the change in application rules. At least we're a bit wiser than we were, but there are still one or two riders that are going to have a worrying few weeks and, ultimately, disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Can Aussies double up then if on a tier 2 Visa? Or have i just read it wrong. So after reading that it looks like Smith, Davies and Proctor might not qualify. Looks like they can. Maybe the 3 mentioned will get some special dispensation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Looks like they can. Maybe the 3 mentioned will get some special dispensation? For what? Nice as it is to have clarification of the new rules, it's speedway, so there are still questions and contradictions. I'm surprised that with all the non-compliance that caused the current situation the time frame for qualification has been relaxed to 2 years, which is what lets Holder and presumably Manzares now qualify. I assume that the National/State qualification criteria remain the same, as the GBE page is still on the BSPA web site with reference to 2009 removed, and this becomes the Appendix 1 that is referred to in the new Sponsored Migrants Policy, although it still currently shows the qualifying averages as 4 & 7. Tier 2 holders only being able to guest within the league in which they are contracted but also being able to double up seems to be a contradiction. It's also surprising that Tier 5 visas are now a valid option whereas in the recent past the UKVI rules restricted the BSPA to Tier 2 sponsorship only. I'd assumed that the granting of Tier 5 visas last year was just a quick fix for riders that had been caught out by the change in application rules. At least we're a bit wiser than we were, but there are still one or two riders that are going to have a worrying few weeks and, ultimately, disappointment. Absolutely spot on - although we don't know what the 'BSPA recognised state Championships' actually are, especially in the USA. As posted on the Plymouth thread too, is Ryan Fisher now in doubt too? Edited March 4, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well I would hope the old averages for qualification are used for this year but then next year the new averages needed are brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontrader Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Do the required averages include bonus points? If not there is no way Aussie or USA riders are going to be team riding. Your team is on a 5-1 with the Aussie in second place as they enter the last bend, the Aussie goes to the front knocking his 'teammate' out of the way and allowing an opponent through for second place. Gonna happen every week as the visa riders fight to achieve the average they need for the next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Do the required averages include bonus points? If not there is no way Aussie or USA riders are going to be team riding. Your team is on a 5-1 with the Aussie in second place as they enter the last bend, the Aussie goes to the front knocking his 'teammate' out of the way and allowing an opponent through for second place. Gonna happen every week as the visa riders fight to achieve the average they need for the next season Well it might add a little bit of something to the mix,,, A wouldn't worry about it at Newcastle tho,,, cos no-one knows how to team ride there, lol ;-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I see football has announced plans to restrict the number of non EU players. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32024808 Can't help but wonder if this is part of the same issue being dressed up as an FA decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I see football has announced plans to restrict the number of non EU players. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32024808 Can't help but wonder if this is part of the same issue being dressed up as an FA decision. No problems for me. Was first mooted in 2013 by the FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I see football has announced plans to restrict the number of non EU players. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32024808 Can't help but wonder if this is part of the same issue being dressed up as an FA decision. About time too. It makes me laugh when I hear them on the Television talking about the ENGLISH Premier League. Who the hell do they think they are kidding? :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.