Humphrey Appleby Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 wonder what the nz state champs are? North and south island? It just shows you how ridiculously the regulations were formulated. They also used to warble on about the Czech Extraliga, but completely failed to mention the German leagues which at least in the past were a higher standard. Australian and US (and NZ) state championships should be completely discounted for visa qualification. It should go on national championships alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well apparently Mike Bacon ( Ipswich journalist) has tweeted this morning "just spoken to CL and no problem with visa for Gino or Rohan - they both meet the criteria" (paraphrased) So either the criteria have been amended or CL has got it spectacularly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well apparently Mike Bacon ( Ipswich journalist) has tweeted this morning "just spoken to CL and no problem with visa for Gino or Rohan - they both meet the criteria" (paraphrased) So either the criteria have been amended or CL has got it spectacularly wrong. Just the mere suggestion that CL may have got in wrong, is enough for some of the usual suspects to go on the attack!!! As we enter a fresh era of transparency, it would be helpful if the BSPA could update their website to actually confirm what the current criteria is. As of five minutes ago the BSPA website still shows the criteria for season 2009. If nothing has changed just change the date.....it really isn’t that tricky!! When the 2009 criteria was introduced did the average figure quoted include bonus points? If it does, it may account for some of the apparent anomalies. Whether that applies to Tungate or Manzares I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) When the 2009 criteria was introduced did the average figure quoted include bonus points? If it does, it may account for some of the apparent anomalies. Whether that applies to Tungate or Manzares I have no idea.No, that changed in 2005/6 when it dropped from 8 to 7. Edited February 24, 2015 by Alan_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Would be interesting to know how Manzares has been approved and Taylor Poole hasn't ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Would be interesting to know how Manzares has been approved and Taylor Poole hasn't ?? Certainly seems to be at odds with each other. As I see it, both are in the same position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Certainly seems to be at odds with each other. As I see it, both are in the same position. I agree - I don't know how they have worked that one out. Puzzled - Sunderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Certainly seems to be at odds with each other. As I see it, both are in the same position. The only way I can see it working is if they're now taking the previous 2 seasons into account, but I haven't checked it out rider by rider yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The only way I can see it working is if they're now taking the previous 2 seasons into account, but I haven't checked it out rider by rider yet.at first that would seem logical but then I believe Campton did get the required placing in a state championship in 2013 and doesnt qualify.Perhaps the US criteria have been adjusted due to the set up there not being in line with the OZ system that it has previously been lumped together with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Would be interesting to know how Manzares has been approved and Taylor Poole hasn't ?? I don't think any riders have been approved yet. Teams are still waiting for sponsorship certificates aren't they? With one or two excetions. Best wait and see who does get approved and who doesn't before deciding if there are any irregularities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 If the previous 2 seasons were to count, this is how I see it panning out; The Probables* Smith 2013 average Manzares surely not 2013 Western States (1st)? otherwise DNQ Davies 2013 average Holder 2013 NSW (2nd) The Refused Wethers DNQ Poole DNQ Campton DNQ Only placed in U21 state championships The Rest Henry DNQ Harrison DNQ Skidmore EU passport? * according to their prospective promoters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Do Henry & Harrison not qualify through residency, a la Doolan, Watt etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Do Henry & Harrison not qualify through residency, a la Doolan, Watt etc Whoops! Yes, brain fade on Harrison, Henry I don't know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Do Henry & Harrison not qualify through residency, a la Doolan, Watt etc Henry has dual Nationality. Grandparents British as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 USA national jr team's planned Europeans tour have been cancelled due to visa issues. So is it likely that the same reason/rules that forced lots of EL-riders to re-apply for a visa now also prevents the USA national jr team from coming here and doing friendly meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 USA national jr team's planned Europeans tour have been cancelled due to visa issues. So is it likely that the same reason/rules that forced lots of EL-riders to re-apply for a visa now also prevents the USA national jr team from coming here and doing friendly meetings? Cannot see the reason for the non issue of a temp visa for a visiting team. It is not as if they are looking to come to the UK for a year and go on the dole etc if there job ends. Would this mean that no junior international athletic team event, footy or cricket competition can now take place in the UK. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Cannot see the reason for the non issue of a temp visa for a visiting team. It is not as if they are looking to come to the UK for a year and go on the dole etc if there job ends. Would this mean that no junior international athletic team event, footy or cricket competition can now take place in the UK. You'd have thought so, wouldn't you. Maybe it's down to the BSPA not being qualified to act as a sponsor at this particular time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 You'd have thought so, wouldn't you. Maybe it's down to the BSPA not being qualified to act as a sponsor at this particular time? I would have thought the Speedway Authority would have been involved with the meeting with the UKv&i and got this sort of situation sorted out at the same time as the clubs were being advised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Cannot see the reason for the non issue of a temp visa for a visiting team. It is not as if they are looking to come to the UK for a year and go on the dole etc if there job ends. Would this mean that no junior international athletic team event, footy or cricket competition can now take place in the UK. I think it's no problem if no money or only prize money is involved, but maybe the authorities have tired of speedway flaunting the regulations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Cannot see the reason for the non issue of a temp visa for a visiting team. It is not as if they are looking to come to the UK for a year and go on the dole etc if there job ends. Would this mean that no junior international athletic team event, footy or cricket competition can now take place in the UK. Perhaps if they came from certain other parts of the World there wouldn't be a problem. We seem to take anybody, it seems, but not American or Australian Speedway Riders who have means of supporting themselves. :rolleyes: It's a bloody disgrace. :angry: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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