ch958 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Liverpool?! I- he doesn't strike me as the type to go out wandering around the street with a pickaxe attacking the people he doesn't like i think he used to but he's retired now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Liverpool?! I don't like calling people racist because they're discussing immigration, it all becomes a bit too PC and you end up with another Rotherham Pakistani community sex scandal. It should be discussed, civilly, and those who consider the views racists should try and convince the "racist" they are wrong. Calling someone a racists will not help any discussion/debate. I often find some of TWKs views on certain sections of society a bit, should we say outdated but I'll defend his right to hold them views - he doesn't strike me as the type to go out wandering around the street with a pickaxe attacking the people he doesn't like He probably doesn't take a pole with him either!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Actually I don't............................... I just doubt your and others ability to understand my point..................................... If I am happy that Mr. Snackette's Surgeon is here from Bulgaria as he/she is doing something useful for our/this Country - how does that make me Racist? As for the rest - those I mentioned in our Town and City Centres - I do not retract one word. I have said many times that I do not mind anyone coming to this Country AS LONG AS THEY ARE OF SOME USE TO THIS COUNTRY. That goes for all Races. I reiterate - If they aren't of any use to this Country they should not be here. Now - how is that Racist? and that is why we are having this debate,,, it has been mentioned on here, about some 'speedway riders', and wether or not they are of some use to this country,,, without naming them, or all of them, there is at least 1 Austrailian, who can't come now and in fact has had trouble before, and I think there is a German, who some people don't seem to think he is any good,,, I have seen both of them ride at Newcastle,,, and IMO, I would say both of them don't bring much to speedway in Britain,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 He probably doesn't take a pole with him either!! Also at his age he is unlikely to be mobile enough to go "Russian" around the streets causing bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 where would you sent the brits who are quite happy to live on the dole and ponce off the state ? They are OUR problem. WE must sort that out. The one's I am talking about are the ones from outside our Country who come here as beggars and scroungers. You cannot deny they are here - or can you? THEY should NOT be our problem. We should not have to take in these people who will, in some cases, cross two or three Countries to get here. Why? Because they know that they will be a lot better off - often at our expense. To address the accusation of my blanket Statement, which it was - I agree. I thought it would be obvious, given my stance on various other issues on this Forum that I am quite happy, in the main, to accept anyone from anywhere who will benefit our Society - the rest, I repeat, should not be here. I should not have to Post my Statement every time I Post to say that I am happy with limited Immigration - I am and have said so on lots of occasions. What is so wrong/Racist about only wanting the best people to come to this Country? Nothing in my opinion. i think he used to but he's retired now! Very good ch958. :rofl: :rofl: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Refering to Bulgarians and Romanians TWK wrote: "........ bring absolutely nothing of worth to this Country at all. Unless, of course, you consider Begging, Pickpocketing, Busking and collecting Benefits as being 'useful'....." However you dress it up, it's racist filth. Sadly there are those to continue to support the words of this racist bigot...and frankly shame on them. Once you allow racists a platform to peddle their facist diatribe, you find yourselves on a very slippery slope indeed. Freedom of speech is something that needs to be earned, someting racist bigots gave up a long time ago!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Gone off topic here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Back on topic hopefully. I can't trawl through pages of non related stuff so would some kind soul tell me which riders are not getting a work permit please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Back on topic hopefully. I can't trawl through pages of non related stuff so would some kind soul tell me which riders are not getting a work permit please. So far Mason Campton and Matt Wethers. But there may be more, it's possible that Workington were quick to act while others are still a bit slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Thanks SCB. Hardly earth shattering enough for 40 pages then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) it has been reported on 'youtube' that the City could be 'expecting the worst',,, Ye Olde Town of London, is bracing itself for the latest bout of 'political correctness',,, it is reported that a 'small' community of folk from the Wimbledon area may be planning a reaction to the latest evidence of bigotry and racial hatred rearing it's ugly head on 'social media sites',,, This 'small' group, calling themslves 'The Wombles' are said to be furious at such remark's, and are not happy about thing's being said about Bulgaria. 'The Wombles' claim to have 'A long and rich heritage' in the Wimbledon area, as well as having strong bonds with Bulgaria. It is reported that 'the big wigs' at No.10 are taking this seriously and would like to resolve the matter, it was also said that 'eyebrows were raised' when some-one suggested that, these 'Wombles' might have an association with 'The Bear' from another area of Ye Olde London Town, but a spokesperson quickly quashed this by saying, 'as long as Peru is'nt brought into it, we should be ok', Although Romania has been mentioned, and they have had a seedy past with bear's,,, it is unlikely to cause a problem, as upto now there is no confirmed reports of any Romanian Bears residing in the area, but there maybe some immigrant bears in the 'Tees' area,,, It has been suggested that, what looks like to be a male in an iron suit, riding a horse and carrying a long stick (or something),,, may have something to do with it,,, ;-) Back on topic hopefully. I can't trawl through pages of non related stuff so would some kind soul tell me which riders are not getting a work permit please. sorry :-( Edited February 9, 2015 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Given that part of the thinking behind the requirement for visas for sports people generally must be that British sports people have the opportunity to perform (ignoring the other arguments for and against immigration) just how many British riders do not have a team place due to a rider gaining a visa to work in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Given that part of the thinking behind the requirement for visas for sports people generally must be that British sports people have the opportunity to perform (ignoring the other arguments for and against immigration) just how many British riders do not have a team place due to a rider gaining a visa to work in the UK? more than 2 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Refering to Bulgarians and Romanians TWK wrote: "........ bring absolutely nothing of worth to this Country at all. Unless, of course, you consider Begging, Pickpocketing, Busking and collecting Benefits as being 'useful'....." However you dress it up, it's racist filth. Sadly there are those to continue to support the words of this racist bigot...and frankly shame on them. Once you allow racists a platform to peddle their facist diatribe, you find yourselves on a very slippery slope indeed. Freedom of speech is something that needs to be earned, someting racist bigots gave up a long time ago!!!! Just one question Mr. Snackette - have I ever personally attacked you? No, as far as I am aware - I haven't. I would be pleased if you would afford me the same privilege as I do you. You are entitled to your opinion - I acknowledge that. What you are NOT supposed to do is to personally attack the Poster. I would hope, and expect that I am entitled to my opinion too. Unless, of course, only your view is permissible. IF that is the case, it is you who should look in the mirror. You may find a Bigot looking back at you. My final Post on this Thread regarding this issue - it is way off Topic. Now THAT possibly is my fault, and for that I apologise, if that is the case. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Just one question Mr. Snackette - have I ever personally attacked you? No, as far as I am aware - I haven't. I would be pleased if you would afford me the same privilege as I do you. You are entitled to your opinion - I acknowledge that. What you are NOT supposed to do is to personally attack the Poster. I would hope, and expect that I am entitled to my opinion too. Unless, of course, only your view is permissible. IF that is the case, it is you who should look in the mirror. You may find a Bigot looking back at you. My final Post on this Thread regarding this issue - it is way off Topic. Now THAT possibly is my fault, and for that I apologise, if that is the case. If I were a paedophile who wrote on here advocating sex with children, I would quite rightly expect both my post and me as the poster to be attacked for my unacceptable opinion. The racist who elects to peddle his unacceptable bigoted opinion on a sports forum can not expect any courtesy....only contempt by those who object to being subjected to these vile and repugnant views. I too apologise for taking this thread "off topic", but make no apologies for attacking racism, which I will continue to do whenever its pernicious and ignorant views rear its ugly head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 If I were a paedophile who wrote on here advocating sex with children, I would quite rightly expect both my post and me as the poster to be attacked for my unacceptable opinion. The racist who elects to peddle his unacceptable bigoted opinion on a sports forum can not expect any courtesy....only contempt by those who object to being subjected to these vile and repugnant views. I too apologise for taking this thread "off topic", but make no apologies for attacking racism, which I will continue to do whenever its pernicious and ignorant views rear its ugly head. you're starting to annoy me now we should have standards of immigration to be as high as Australia and Canada Just one question - when would YOU close the doors??? controlling imigration is not racist and you are being self righteous and thats my final word too on this 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) you're starting to annoy me now we should have standards of immigration to be as high as Australia and Canada Just one question - when would YOU close the doors??? controlling imigration is not racist and you are being self righteous and thats my final word too on this Where (and when) did I suggest that Britain shouldn't have an immigration policy? And perhaps you will also let me know where I ever indicted that controlling immigration was racist? There are those who believe that the UK's immigration policy would benefit from its exit from the EU. It's a valid position, not one that I share, but is certainly something worthy of discussion. What I object to is when the debate is hijacked by a racist and his truly dreadful cohorts. As I have written before suggesting that Bulgarians and Romanians "........ bring absolutely nothing of worth to this Country at all. Unless, of course, you consider Begging, Pickpocketing, Busking and collecting Benefits as being 'useful'....." has nothing to do with the UK's immigration policy....it's bigoted racist filth. We must never allow racists a platform to peddle their posionous facist diatribe, and sadly you have confused a debate on immigration with bigoted racism. Whether this was done out of ignorance or design is for others to judge. Edited February 9, 2015 by Mr Snackette 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 My final Post on this Thread regarding this issue. and thats my final word too on this Amen. Can I go back to my knitting now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 when does discrimmination turn into racism, or is it the same thing really ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 when does discrimmination turn into racism, or is it the same thing really ??? Any discrimination based on race (and in legal terms on Nationality too) is racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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