Najjer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I'd say Kozza does meet the standards with a 7.15 PL average Which wasn't achieved last year, as per the regulations. The same as Alex Davies whose 7+ average was in 2013. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I can understand about Campton not being allowed a visa, but less understanding about Whethers, has he failed to meet the new standards for attaining visas or has he been riding illegally for a few seasons now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 probably too late now but could have dropped the team average limit slightly and introduced a single fast track rider to each team to cover for any shortage obviously if this had been envisaged or known about sooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Had a look at the averages and the Aussie State Champs and I think there's only 3 that may have a problem. Mason Campton, Taylor Poole and Ryan Douglas.Douglas has a 7pt average and State Title placing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Douglas final avg was 6.73 but he did get top 4 in qsld state title so going by worky pr "should? Be ok. If it's either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 As they live in the UK most of the year there primary residence will be one in this country. Now if they stay in a hotel for a night they can claim that back but I'm not sure 8 months of rent would be allowed If it is, all self employer people would claim they live in Spain (or where ever they went on holiday that year!) and so their mortgage/rent could be deducted! Very much depends how long they spend in each country, I could see a strong argument that all accommodation in the UK for an Australian resident (who also works in Sweden, Poland and Denmark) being an allowable tax deduction. Even if disallowed they could claim part of the expense if the base is used as a workshop. Tax is not my specialism but as an accountant I do deal with it fairly regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Douglas will be okay as its already been mentioned he finished in the top 3 of a State final at the end of last year. As I previously mentioned Campton didn't meet the required standard, nor does Manzares, Poole and Jack Holder, technically nor does Alex Davies and Kozza Smith too. Manzares, it seems, does meet the criteria as Chris Louis has apparently told the local journalist that the 2 Ipswich riders have "no issues" getting visas. Edited February 4, 2015 by Hong Kong Phooey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Manzares, it seems, does meet the criteria as Chris Louis has apparently told the local journalist that the 2 Ipswich riders have "no issues" getting visas. That means nothing. Workington sent the Campton issue to appeal with the BSPA before being told no for a second time. Just goes to show how little some teams have learned as they are still prepared to ignore the rules and criteria set for self interest. Manzares is no different to Campton if as someone mentioned earlier in this thread he failed to finish top 4 in his qualifying meetings back home this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em1500uk Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Which wasn't achieved last year, as per the regulations. The same as Alex Davies whose 7+ average was in 2013. Where does it state this? Can't see anything in the Workington press release about the average needing to have been achieved in the previous year...but maybe they've left that detail out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 That means nothing. Workington sent the Campton issue to appeal with the BSPA before being told no for a second time. Just goes to show how little some teams have learned as they are still prepared to ignore the rules and criteria set for self interest. Manzares is no different to Campton if as someone mentioned earlier in this thread he failed to finish top 4 in his qualifying meetings back home this winter.Has there been any official statement, detailing exactly what the qualifying criteria is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Where does it state this? Can't see anything in the Workington press release about the average needing to have been achieved in the previous year...but maybe they've left that detail out As quoted here on the BSPA website: http://www.speedwaygb.co/gbe If it was any season then Matt Wethers would of been okay as im certain he's achieved a 7.00 in the past - just not last season and that's why he's been shown the door it seems. Edited February 4, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 As quoted here on the BSPA website: http://www.speedwaygb.co/gbe If it was any season then Matt Wethers would of been okay as im certain he's achieved a 7.00 in the past - just not last season and that's why he's been shown the door it seems. Whethers finished the 2010 season on a 7-04 average, though has been below seven since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thank God for that. Mason Campton does nothing for British Speedway. He is the kind of crap coming over that we don't need. Told you all this would happen but no, he has potential, he need to earn a living and all sorts of crap was posted. Turned out he's not good enough after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Whethers finished the 2010 season on a 7-04 average, though has been below seven since then. Just as I thought - which should technically rule out Smith and Davies then. Rules are rules unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thank God for that. Mason Campton does nothing for British Speedway. He is the kind of crap coming over that we don't need. Told you all this would happen but no, he has potential, he need to earn a living and all sorts of crap was posted. Turned out he's not good enough after all! More of an issue for me, is promoters offering contracts to far worse riders than Campton rather than giving British youngsters a chance! There isn't a great deal of British talent coming through granted, but surely there's a few that couldn't do worse than the likes of Dilger and Konopka who are proven sh**e. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Has there been any official statement, detailing exactly what the qualifying criteria is?its posted earlier on this thread or the visa thread.criteria havent changed since about 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Very much depends how long they spend in each country, I could see a strong argument that all accommodation in the UK for an Australian resident (who also works in Sweden, Poland and Denmark) being an allowable tax deduction. Even if disallowed they could claim part of the expense if the base is used as a workshop. Tax is not my specialism but as an accountant I do deal with it fairly regularly. The tax rules appear to preclude exempting accommodation costs, but I think there's something of an unwritten rule that you can do it for a residence for up to two years if you argue that you're temporarily contracting. I'm not sure how it works if your 'main residence' is back in Australia though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 More of an issue for me, is promoters offering contracts to far worse riders than Campton rather than giving British youngsters a chance! There isn't a great deal of British talent coming through granted, but surely there's a few that couldn't do worse than the likes of Dilger and Konopka who are proven sh**e. Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with that. Dilger, Konopka, Graversen and many more shouldn't be in reserve in the PL either. But we can't do much about them. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be kicking out those we can. If we kick out 4 or 5 Aussies and 1 Brit gets a place from it then it's a good thing. I'd happily make it a rule that any rider cannot drop less than their assessed average. I'd even be kind to the bugger and say they can drop up to a point in their first season. Then lets see how mant Konopka etc we get over here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 The tax rules appear to preclude exempting accommodation costs, but I think there's something of an unwritten rule that you can do it for a residence for up to two years if you argue that you're temporarily contracting. I'm not sure how it works if your 'main residence' is back in Australia though. Different case but when I was temporarily relocated to Italy for work I was allowed to claim back my additional accommodation costs, I would have presumed you could argue that all European accommodation costs are allowable when you are primarily based in Australia? Even if not I doubt many speedway riders would end up paying much if any UK tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) After reading about matt wethers are doolan, harrisson and henry safe. Edited February 4, 2015 by brewer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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