theknow 2 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Of course it's about immigration. UKIP is fundamentally an anti-immigration party despite Farage never giving a straight answer as to what this actually means in practice, although he of course let slip last year that he wanted a 5-year ban on all immigration. No doubt certain (white) Commonwealth immigrants are more tolerable to UKIP supporters, but it's ironic that ethnic Greeks, Italians, Germans and Poles from Australia would be more welcome in their eyes than ethnic Greeks, Italians, Germans and Poles from Greece, Italy, Germany and Poland! At one time there was total freedom of movement around the Commonwealth - long before the EU was ever thought of. However, anti-immigration sentiments in all those countries tore that principle up, so it's hardly that the UK specifically legislated against Australians and Kiwis, and indeed has supported the principle of right of abode under patriality laws. Yes, I do agree there should be freedom of movement between the UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, as well as the EU/EEA, but it has to be reciprocal and in the current climate I doubt is something any government wants to consider. Indeed if you want to move to Aus you have to take an English test, Bloody cheek. They are one of the worst just like the USA so why should we just open the door for them !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 According to Speedway GP Swindon, Poole and Leicester have been cleared to re-apply for sponsor licences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 According to Speedway GP Swindon, Poole and Leicester have been cleared to re-apply for sponsor licences. All the clubs who attended last Fridays meeting with UKVI have been cleared to re-apply for their sponsors license. Next step will be the riders to re-apply for their visa`s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) All the clubs who attended last Fridays meeting with UKVI have been cleared to re-apply for their sponsors license. Next step will be the riders to re-apply for their visa`s. ............... and how long will that take. Will they get them in time? Edited February 3, 2015 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 ............... and how long will that take. Will they get them in time? UKVI have already said they would work with any club trying to get riders through so they are ready to start the season, I am sure some riders will be easier than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Indeed if you want to move to Aus you have to take an English test, Bloody cheek. They are one of the worst just like the USA so why should we just open the door for them !!!!a lot of poms I know moved to nz purely so they could get a kiwi passport and then move to aussie on that, as it was the only/easiest way to get into oz. Any easing of entry requirements would of course need to be reciprocal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Can see these State Championships turning into pre-ordained meetings. Decide the Top 4 beforehand and throw in a competitive final to determine the winner. Determine who is in need of a work permit qualification criteria each year, a build the meetings around them. Memories of Bruce Penhall in the Overseas Final in the early 80's (White City?) cruising around at the back of his last race to let his fellow Americans qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 White city in 82 500cc. ironically he didn't manage to earn his compatriots any extra places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 All the clubs who attended last Fridays meeting with UKVI have been cleared to re-apply for their sponsors license. Next step will be the riders to re-apply for their visa`s. Surely the next step is for them to apply and be accepted. What happens if they're not accepted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Surely the next step is for them to apply and be accepted. What happens if they're not accepted? Giving that the UKVI have said that they will work with the clubs, and after their workshop last Friday, do you really think the UKVI would let clubs apply for sponsor licenses only to turn them down, after all UKVI are now guiding the clubs through the paperwork. IMO getting the sponsors license will be the easy part for the clubs, getting riders to apply for visas and then getting those visas granted will be the hard part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Giving that the UKVI have said that they will work with the clubs, and after their workshop last Friday, do you really think the UKVI would let clubs apply for sponsor licenses only to turn them down, after all UKVI are now guiding the clubs through the paperwork. IMO getting the sponsors license will be the easy part for the clubs, getting riders to apply for visas and then getting those visas granted will be the hard part. What happens when they apply for riders who don't meet the requirements again, assuming their sponsors license is accepted - surely that is going to look more incompetent than ever before especially after attending the workshop. Edited February 3, 2015 by Najjer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 What happens when they apply for riders who don't meet the requirements again, assuming their sponsors license is accepted - surely that is going to look more incompetent than ever before especially after attending the workshop. Had a look at the averages and the Aussie State Champs and I think there's only 3 that may have a problem. Mason Campton, Taylor Poole and Ryan Douglas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) What happens when they apply for riders who don't meet the requirements again, assuming their sponsors license is accepted - surely that is going to look more incompetent than ever before especially after attending the workshop. Why would they think they were acceptable. Surely that would be part of the documentation, and they can't say the rider meets the requirements when he doesn't. Unless of course if there is an injury exemption being asked. Edited February 3, 2015 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 a lot of poms I know moved to nz purely so they could get a kiwi passport and then move to aussie on that, as it was the only/easiest way to get into oz. It's probably easier to get into NZ than Australia (at least for Brits), but there's still a qualification criteria and it will take 4 or 5 years of residency to get a Kiwi passport. You'd have to be pretty keen to do it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Had a look at the averages and the Aussie State Champs and I think there's only 3 that may have a problem. Mason Campton, Taylor Poole and Ryan Douglas.Matty Wethers as well according to Workington's latest press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 So we have had to drop Mason Campton and Matty Wethers, as explained on the Comets website http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100438 Really tough on Mason who was actually injured and broke his collar bone in the B Final of the NSW State Championship when colliding with Tyson Nelson who won the B Final and finished 4th on 11pts, had Mason came second in that B final he would have finished 4th overall on 12pts, thus have been able to ride in the UK this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 The Aussies shot themselves in the foot as it turns out. Campton was the 3rd highest NSW rider in the New South Wales state final but out of state riders finished above him leading to his permit refusal...Oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Looks like Gino Manzares will also have problems too unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Had a look at the averages and the Aussie State Champs and I think there's only 3 that may have a problem. Mason Campton, Taylor Poole and Ryan Douglas.Douglas will be okay as its already been mentioned he finished in the top 3 of a State final at the end of last year. As I previously mentioned Campton didn't meet the required standard, nor does Manzares, Poole and Jack Holder, technically nor does Alex Davies and Kozza Smith too. Edited February 4, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Douglas will be okay as its already been mentioned he finished in the top 3 of a State final at the end of last year. As I previously mentioned Campton didn't meet the required standard, nor does Manzares, Poole and Jack Holder, technically nor does Alex Davies and Kozza Smith too. I'd say Kozza does meet the standards with a 7.15 PL average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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