dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 As with anything formulated by speedway, I doubt anyone has thought that far... Why stop with Texas - there's another 48 states that could have championships too. I'm sure the BSPA would like the criteria to be as liberal as possible though, and up until now it seems the authorities have obliged. Exactly my point and also why I earlier mentioned Tasmania is Oz. If there hasnt been a solo championship there the same could apply if MA want to assist 4 Aussies who currently may not qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) sedgmen qualifies as he finished top 4 in victorian titles And this will start happening again if that is the requirements for a visa. Fair point on Sedgmen - he should be okay then. And Ryan douglas was in the top 4 in the queensland titles My mistake - I thought he had been injured all winter and I read he had been on crutches but in fact came 3rd in his state final. Jack Holder on the other hand failed to do so. Edited February 1, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It was invented by accident. In the late 19th Century a German scientist, Justus Liebig, discovered brewer's yeast could be concentrated, bottled and eaten. In 1902 the Marmite Food Company was founded in Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, where the raw material was readily available from the town's brewers. Well, we stopped the German's (all of them), coming over twice, but that stuff has still found its way here,,, you just can't win :-( 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Fair point on Sedgmen - he should be okay then. My mistake - I thought he had been injured all winter and I read he had been on crutches but in fact came 3rd in his state final. Jack Holder on the other hand failed to do so. Taylor Poole could potentially be exempt due to the injury clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 The main problem is none of the riders know exactly what the current requirements are. The general consensus was that the requirements were top 4 in state championship or qualifying for your national final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) The main problem is none of the riders know exactly what the current requirements are. The general consensus was that the requirements were top 4 in state championship or qualifying for your national final.Why don't they? It took me 2 minutes on the BSPA website to find it. You'd also hope the promotion would also know if a rider qualifies too.Taylor Poole could potentially be exempt due to the injury clause.Rubbish - did his average ever go above 7 last year at any point? The answer is no. Edited February 1, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Well, we stopped the German's (all of them), coming over twice, but that stuff has still found its way here,,, you just can't win :-(Do you think the German's caused all that trouble, just to sell 'marmite' ???,,,they'd have been better off using it as a weapon, thing is tho, it's so bloody expensive :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Why don't they? It took me 2 minutes on the BSPA website to find it. You'd also hope the promotion would also know if a rider qualifies too. Rubbish - did his average ever go above 7 last year at any point? The answer is no. you would think so but the same clubs were bring riders in on a 5 when they clearly should have been a 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Why don't they? It took me 2 minutes on the BSPA website to find it. You'd also hope the promotion would also know if a rider qualifies too. Rubbish - did his average ever go above 7 last year at any point? The answer is no. the GBE info is easy to find on the BSPA site but is stated as relating to 2009 and is inconsistent against the 2014 regs. IF you do go by them the injury caveat doesnt state the rider had to be above 7 at any time. It simply states exemption where injury has prevented the rider. Returning from or suffering a new injury isnt specified so either COULD apply. For Poole infact both could apply as he broke a leg both before and after his Sheff stint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) the GBE info is easy to find on the BSPA site but is stated as relating to 2009 and is inconsistent against the 2014 regs. IF you do go by them the injury caveat doesnt state the rider had to be above 7 at any time. It simply states exemption where injury has prevented the rider. Returning from or suffering a new injury isnt specified so either COULD apply. For Poole infact both could apply as he broke a leg both before and after his Sheff stint. Why should it apply? Injury didn't prevent him from achieving a 7.00 average, he wasnt ever near it. Another rider who has ridden over here for two seasons and failed to achieve the required rate.you would think so but the same clubs were bring riders in on a 5 when they clearly should have been a 7That's a different arguement altogether - as its already been stated at no point over the past few years should any work permit rider have come over here on a 5.00. I believe it's also been said the requirements haven't changed for a number of years, hence the 2009 date. Edited February 1, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Why should it apply? Injury didn't prevent him from achieving a 7.00 average, he wasnt ever near it. Another rider who has ridden over here for two seasons and failed to achieve the required rate.and had serious injuries both seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 and had serious injuries both seasons.Of course, I forgot about his stints with Ipswich - admittedly he broke his arm in one of those seasons right at the start of the season, but that's now 4 seasons where he hasn't reached the required standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It will be interesting to see how things pan out as riders like Poole, Campton and Manzares still had current visa's with one or more years left. So aslong as they met the requirements when the visa's were issued they should be ok. If they were forced to apply for new ones then that will cause issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 the GBE info is easy to find on the BSPA site but is stated as relating to 2009 and is inconsistent against the 2014 regs. It's the other way round, the regs in recent years haven't complied with necessary criteria, which is how we got where we are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It will be interesting to see how things pan out as riders like Poole, Campton and Manzares still had current visa's with one or more years left. So aslong as they met the requirements when the visa's were issued they should be ok. If they were forced to apply for new ones then that will cause issues. Troy Batchelor has already said he had a 2 year visa which has effectively been ripped up and he has to reapply. The others will be exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Troy Batchelor has already said he had a 2 year visa which has effectively been ripped up and he has to reapply. The others will be exactly the same.originally that was thought to be the case but the riders were later infomed that it was the sponsorship certificates had been cancelled and the visa's were currently suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm hearing that Plymouth have accepted there may be issues with Holder's visa and have put in a request for first call on the top 4 Tasmanian qualifiers. If acceptable, they will be renamed the Tazmanian Devils!! I'll get my coat.......... originally that was thought to be the case but the riders were later infomed that it was the sponsorship certificates had been cancelled and the visa's were currently suspended. Not according to Colin Pratt from Friday's workshops!! New CoS's have been agreed and Swindon have re-submitted Batchelor's visa application straight away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm hearing that Plymouth have accepted there may be issues with Holder's visa and have put in a request for first call on the top 4 Tasmanian qualifiers. If acceptable, they will be renamed the Tazmanian Devils!! I'll get my coat.......... Not according to Colin Pratt from Friday's workshops!! New CoS's have been agreed and Swindon have re-submitted Batchelor's visa application straight away. but are they applying for a new visa or are they applying to have the current one reinstated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 but are they applying for a new visa or are they applying to have the current one reinstated?A new visa - as Batchelor has said he has to hand over his passport again. Story here: http://www.speedwaygp.com/_mobile/article/3936/batchs-visa-frustration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Of course, I forgot about his stints with Ipswich - admittedly he broke his arm in one of those seasons right at the start of the season, but that's now 4 seasons where he hasn't reached the required standard.but nowhere does it state the average has to be attained if the other criteria are met.If the injury prevented him from competing in his stare championship the exemption COULD apply there. I am not claiming this is right or fair just pointing out that the wording is so ambiguous and wooly you can take it to mean almost anything to suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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