Mr Snackette Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 You can't blame the forum for one persistently boring twatette. However you can..... for not moderating racist bigots, to ensure that their facist odius agenda does not infest a sports forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 However you can..... for not moderating racist bigots, to ensure that their facist odius agenda does not infest a sports forum. What happened to Spain then. Did they send you packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Boy Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Unfortunately many people make racist comments without necessarily being racists in their interaction with others on a day to day basis; particularly those of the older generation. Problems always arise when stereotyping and in this country we have a bad habit of doing that. The comments made about Bulgarians and Romanians are ignorant and unwarranted. They are being used as scapegoats; as are the disabled; the unemployed and young people who can't get jobs (because there aren't any for them). All of these groups have been targeted by the political right wing politicians and media to distract from the awful job they are doing running the country and the brilliant job they are doing robbing the low paid to make the rich richer. It is no wonder that posters on this type of site believe it is acceptable to make inaccurate, discriminatory and racist comments; we live in an era that positively encourages it. My father and grand father fought to prevent this sort of crap; yet it is now being allowed to develop because it is politically expedient to let it do so. "The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" As the old quote says! The argument about "PC bullies" is horse manure; PC only exists in the minds of those who want the right to say what they like, without the responsibilities that go with free speech. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 If you took away TWK's right to be casually racist and use CAPITAL LETTERS all the time in his posts, he'd only be on here once a month. Unfortunately it's their age. They don't understand that the world's moved on and what they use as everyday banter is actually quite offensive these days. quite sad really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Unfortunately many people make racist comments without necessarily being racists in their interaction with others on a day to day basis; particularly those of the older generation. Problems always arise when stereotyping and in this country we have a bad habit of doing that. The comments made about Bulgarians and Romanians are ignorant and unwarranted. They are being used as scapegoats; as are the disabled; the unemployed and young people who can't get jobs (because there aren't any for them). All of these groups have been targeted by the political right wing politicians and media to distract from the awful job they are doing running the country and the brilliant job they are doing robbing the low paid to make the rich richer. It is no wonder that posters on this type of site believe it is acceptable to make inaccurate, discriminatory and racist comments; we live in an era that positively encourages it. My father and grand father fought to prevent this sort of crap; yet it is now being allowed to develop because it is politically expedient to let it do so. "The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" As the old quote says! The argument about "PC bullies" is horse manure; PC only exists in the minds of those who want the right to say what they like, without the responsibilities that go with free speech. And you are right - see my signature. I one hundred per cent agree with that. I was not going to add any more to this Thread, however, I read the highlighted section of your Post and decided to Post my agreement with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Anyone know if there are to be anymore UKVI workshops for BSPA members - or have all clubs/officials now done the necessary and got their licences back with no further action. Edited February 10, 2015 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Boy Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 And you are right - see my signature. I one hundred per cent agree with that. I was not going to add any more to this Thread, however, I read the highlighted section of your Post and decided to Post my agreement with you. To be fair; I don't know you so cannot label you as a racist or anything else. I do believe your comments leave you open to attack though, if people read your comment as racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever there is a presumption that this is a reflection of your character and that process of presumption can be as discriminatory as stereotyping and scapegoating! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 would it not be fairer to maybe say,,, any rider's that are not British, or not have a NI no. and want to come over and ride in our league, from wherever they come from, to come in on a 6pt ave. and not a 5 or 7,,, which IMO is where people start getting confused/sh!tty over the decision's ??? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 To be fair; I don't know you so cannot label you as a racist or anything else. I do believe your comments leave you open to attack though, if people read your comment as racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever there is a presumption that this is a reflection of your character and that process of presumption can be as discriminatory as stereotyping and scapegoating! Sensible Post. Because of that I will try to explain my standpoint to you. Racism, to me, is about hating people from other Races. I don't. I admire the 'Sikhs' far too much for that. I have no problem with colour of skin either - to me a person is a person no matter what colour they are. My main argument is that we take far too many people in to this Country who do not qualify, at any level, to be here. Now Professional or hard working people from any Race, Creed or Colour should be made welcome here as long as they abide by the Law of the Land and do not try to change OUR culture.. (that is a big one for me). We cannot continue to bring in unlimited amounts of people who are of no benefit whatsoever to our Country. The infrastructure just will not take much more. Housing, Schools and the National Health Service cannot cope as it is. Because of this I have my position and I will stick to it. It is NOT Racism in my book, it is common sense. Perhaps I did word my original Post badly, perhaps not, but I have tried to explain my position. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Boy Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sensible Post. Because of that I will try to explain my standpoint to you. Racism, to me, is about hating people from other Races. I don't. I admire the 'Sikhs' far too much for that. I have no problem with colour of skin either - to me a person is a person no matter what colour they are. My main argument is that we take far too many people in to this Country who do not qualify, at any level, to be here. Now Professional or hard working people from any Race, Creed or Colour should be made welcome here as long as they abide by the Law of the Land and do not try to change OUR culture.. (that is a big one for me). We cannot continue to bring in unlimited amounts of people who are of no benefit whatsoever to our Country. The infrastructure just will not take much more. Housing, Schools and the National Health Service cannot cope as it is. Because of this I have my position and I will stick to it. It is NOT Racism in my book, it is common sense. Perhaps I did word my original Post badly, perhaps not, but I have tried to explain my position. I think you've done that rather well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 TWK - I don't believe you are a racist. And I understand your position and concerns as explained above, which are consistent with your previous posts. BUT you're post re: Romanians and Bulgarians was truly awful, I don't think there is any "perhaps" about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I think you've done that rather well. agreed,,, and toned it down, to maybe 'just' discrimmination, but fair play for it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 So, the Visa's.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 So, the Visa's.. Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 So many last posts on subjects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 So many last posts on subjects Make this one yours then. Nothing to add, move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Make this one yours then. Nothing to add, move on. You never have anything to add ..bar sticking up for your lover glad you two have made things up No doubt he will vote tory now Edited February 10, 2015 by orion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 You never have anything to add ..bar sticking up for your lover glad you two have made things up No doubt he will vote tory now What IS the matter with you? Go to bed you naughty little boy. So childish. :sad: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 What IS the matter with you? Go to bed you naughty little boy. So childish. :sad: He knows no different Ian. A man with a child's brain, nothing to add but tries to muddle discussions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 He knows no different Ian. A man with a child's brain, nothing to add but tries to muddle discussions. Glad to see the lovers back together after there forum break up ...did you each other a big kiss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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