Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 but nowhere does it state the average has to be attained if the other criteria are met. If the injury prevented him from competing in his stare championship the exemption COULD apply there. I am not claiming this is right or fair just pointing out that the wording is so ambiguous and wooly you can take it to mean almost anything to suit. In which case he will have to wait until he is fit enough to ride in his state championship. Within the 4 seasons he has had here he has failed to reach the 7.00 target so there is no way allowances should be made because he was injured and couldn't compete in his state title. You are right in that the average doesn't need to be met if the state title criteria is met as per Sedgmen and Douglas - but Poole has done neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Havent all the state championships been run (whilst Poole was still injured - wink) On that is anyone in a position to post all the top 4 state results from this season? Edit - Just to add as well - many out of state riders compete in each championship. Do out of state riders count in the 4? Could a state decalre its highest 4 finishers in those places for 'official' use re visa application for example. Edited February 1, 2015 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Havent all the state championships been run (whilst Poole was still injured - wink) On that is anyone in a position to post all the top 4 state results from this season? Edit - Just to add as well - many out of state riders compete in each championship. Do out of state riders count in the 4? Could a state decalre its highest 4 finishers in those places for 'official' use re visa application for example. Like I said, tough luck if he was injured - he should be made to wait until next year when he is fit enough to compete in them and qualify for his work permit that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Will there be a ban on british passport holders riding for Austrailia now ? Edited February 1, 2015 by robert72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Havent all the state championships been run (whilst Poole was still injured - wink) On that is anyone in a position to post all the top 4 state results from this season? Edit - Just to add as well - many out of state riders compete in each championship. Do out of state riders count in the 4? Could a state decalre its highest 4 finishers in those places for 'official' use re visa application for example. yes out of state riders count, they cant just declare their top 4Top 4 from each state are as follows. NSW. Kurtz, Fricke, Masters and Nelson. QLD. Grajczonek, Allen, Nelson and Douglas. SA. Doyle, Tungate,Sedgmen and North. VIC. Masters, Sedgmen, Fricke and North. WA. Heeps, Dan Winchester, Scoble, Ballantyne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 yes out of state riders count, they cant just declare their top 4 Top 4 from each state are as follows. NSW. Kurtz, Fricke, Masters and Nelson. QLD. Grajczonek, Allen, Nelson and Douglas. SA. Doyle, Tungate,Sedgmen and North. VIC. Masters, Sedgmen, Fricke and North. WA. Heeps, Dan Winchester, Scoble, Ballantyne. so the Aussies are shooting themselves in the foot on this one.A number of double counts in there along with quite a few which qualify under residency or average achievement etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Unfortunately yes but changes are being put forward to stop this from happening next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 From Rod Colquhoun, Heffernan Motor Sports:- CLAMPING DOWN The latest news from the UK regarding the visa issues that threaten the viability of the entire 2015 season is that criteria for entry to the UK in coming seasons will be results based. A rider’s result in his home state title will be absolutely crucial in the allocation of visas particularly for those seeking to travel to the UK as a rider for the first time. Whilst this news may be unwelcome it certainly will bolster the fields for state titles and will definitely lift the intensity. It is clearly an attempt to stop riders who are not of international standard being allocated visas and depending what side of the fence you’re on, this may be a positive in some cases. NEW MUFFLER NSW racer Rohan Tungate used the new 2015 FIM approved muffler in several races at Mildura and went on to win the meeting so clearly it met with his approval. The muffler was sent from Europe for testing and so far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 From Rod Colquhoun, Heffernan Motor Sports:- CLAMPING DOWN The latest news from the UK regarding the visa issues that threaten the viability of the entire 2015 season is that criteria for entry to the UK in coming seasons will be results based. A rider’s result in his home state title will be absolutely crucial in the allocation of visas particularly for those seeking to travel to the UK as a rider for the first time. Whilst this news may be unwelcome it certainly will bolster the fields for state titles and will definitely lift the intensity. It is clearly an attempt to stop riders who are not of international standard being allocated visas and depending what side of the fence you’re on, this may be a positive in some cases. NEW MUFFLER NSW racer Rohan Tungate used the new 2015 FIM approved muffler in several races at Mildura and went on to win the meeting so clearly it met with his approval. The muffler was sent from Europe for testing and so far so good. Well fancy that. They're going to have to stick to the rules that have been in place for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Got my professional body monthly journal in the mail today. It had an interview in it with boris johnson, where he was advocating reciprocal freedom from work restrictions between britain, Aussie and nz. Obviously he's not currently in a position to influence such policy, though the article did point out there are currently approximately 200000 aussies and 30000 kiwis living in london. I think his views probably echo those of a number of people, who are fine with immigration from australasia but less ok with bulk immigration from eastern eu countries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 From Rod Colquhoun, Heffernan Motor Sports:- CLAMPING DOWN The latest news from the UK regarding the visa issues that threaten the viability of the entire 2015 season is that criteria for entry to the UK in coming seasons will be results based. A rider’s result in his home state title will be absolutely crucial in the allocation of visas particularly for those seeking to travel to the UK as a rider for the first time. Whilst this news may be unwelcome it certainly will bolster the fields for state titles and will definitely lift the intensity. It is clearly an attempt to stop riders who are not of international standard being allocated visas and depending what side of the fence you’re on, this may be a positive in some cases. In Speedway it seems that the people with the loudest voices and highest pulpits seem the most risible. From the head of the BSPA who cannot fathom what agency operates the Visa system,. To the EL champions Manager with the low IQ and even lower standards of morals. We now have what could be a 'respected voice' from Australia who seems to think that the 2015 criteria are one jot different than those that SHOULD have been enforced for the last five years. Pity the lads that are influenced by such fools. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Got my professional body monthly journal in the mail today. It had an interview in it with boris johnson, where he was advocating reciprocal freedom from work restrictions between britain, Aussie and nz. Obviously he's not currently in a position to influence such policy, though the article did point out there are currently approximately 200000 aussies and 30000 kiwis living in london. I think his views probably echo those of a number of people, who are fine with immigration from australasia but less ok with bulk immigration from eastern eu countries. TBF, thats is UKIPs policy too. It's not so much no immigration but they question why the Romanians and Poles can come over freely but the Americans and Australians are so limited. They want the same criteria to apply to everyone not British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) TBF, thats is UKIPs policy too. It's not so much no immigration but they question why the Romanians and Poles can come over freely but the Americans and Australians are so limited. They want the same criteria to apply to everyone not British. Of course it's about immigration. UKIP is fundamentally an anti-immigration party despite Farage never giving a straight answer as to what this actually means in practice, although he of course let slip last year that he wanted a 5-year ban on all immigration. No doubt certain (white) Commonwealth immigrants are more tolerable to UKIP supporters, but it's ironic that ethnic Greeks, Italians, Germans and Poles from Australia would be more welcome in their eyes than ethnic Greeks, Italians, Germans and Poles from Greece, Italy, Germany and Poland! At one time there was total freedom of movement around the Commonwealth - long before the EU was ever thought of. However, anti-immigration sentiments in all those countries tore that principle up, so it's hardly that the UK specifically legislated against Australians and Kiwis, and indeed has supported the principle of right of abode under patriality laws. Yes, I do agree there should be freedom of movement between the UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, as well as the EU/EEA, but it has to be reciprocal and in the current climate I doubt is something any government wants to consider. Edited February 3, 2015 by Humphrey Appleby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I've known some Aussie riders ride in Britain and not pay any taxes..so they might live there but not all are contributing to the country ! I know a case where about £10,000 was put in an exhaust pipe and shipped back at the end of the season....it was then forgotten about and found years later in the shed !.....about 3 Aussie banks wouldn't accept the money as the notes were so out of date....eventually one did !!...I don't think tax was paid on that ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 In terms of taxation given that riders should be able to claim all or most of their travel, accommodation, living expenses, equipment, engine maintenance and mechanical costs I doubt many would earn sufficient in the UK to pay any tax at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 In terms of taxation given that riders should be able to claim all or most of their travel, accommodation, living expenses, equipment, engine maintenance and mechanical costs I doubt many would earn sufficient in the UK to pay any tax at all. I'm not sure what level of tax accountant you are. But have you done work for Jimmy Carr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 In terms of taxation given that riders should be able to claim all or most of their travel, accommodation, living expenses, equipment, engine maintenance and mechanical costs I doubt many would earn sufficient in the UK to pay any tax at all. Accommodation and "living expense" are surely not tax deductible as you need to pay them whatever job you did. The exception being any hotel stays while away from your home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Accommodation and "living expense" are surely not tax deductible as you need to pay them whatever job you did. The exception being any hotel stays while away from your home. As a self employed worker working away from home I would think accommodation would be written off against any tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 As a self employed worker working away from home I would think accommodation would be written off against any tax. Perhaps, but only for overnight stays when working away from your usual home in this country. Not for all your accommodation costs living in England 'away from your home' in Australia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 As a self employed worker working away from home I would think accommodation would be written off against any tax. As they live in the UK most of the year there primary residence will be one in this country. Now if they stay in a hotel for a night they can claim that back but I'm not sure 8 months of rent would be allowed If it is, all self employer people would claim they live in Spain (or where ever they went on holiday that year!) and so their mortgage/rent could be deducted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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