Fromafar Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Yes, I think he would have protested very loudly if he didn't want to go along with it. He seemed to agree terms and sign up very quickly. You have no proof otherwise, just as those saying that Brian Havelock intends to abandon Redcar. I should think his most likely move would be to offer it to Gary.I think a rider with Kus's average and ability would take the first decent offer otherwise he might be left on the shelf .IMO he had an inflated average due to his spell at reserve.Best of luck to him hope he has a good season. Edited January 1, 2015 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I think a rider with Kus's average and ability would take the first decent offer otherwise he might be left on the shelf.same goes for summers, hes no world beater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Redcar opened up on 13th April 2006 on an initial 10 year lease. 2015 is the last year of the lease. So it might be in Havelock`s interest to get in as many transfer fees as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 same goes for summers, hes no world beater. No - but he is a very decent Rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 same goes for summers, hes no world beater.You don't have to be in the Premier League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 No - but he is a very decent Rider.Hes not worth haggling over though.You don't have to be in the Premier LeagueYou dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Hes not worth haggling over though. Fair comment Arson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Certainly would not pay money to sign Summers,if Glasgow had sense they would look elsewhere . If Glasgow do look elsewhere then that would leave only two teams to get into, Plymouth and Berwick, and I cant see Aaron fancying the drive from Millfield all the way down to Plymouth each Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 If Glasgow do look elsewhere then that would leave only two teams to get into, Plymouth and Berwick, and I cant see Aaron fancying the drive from Millfield all the way down to Plymouth each Friday.Would not want him at Berwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchlad Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Wait till nearer the end of Feb, and Redcar will be in the postion that they either cut their demands or will loan him to Glasgow.....but 100% he will be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me2 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 The Summers thing has been done to death on the Glasgow thread, so what's the point of going over it all again? Nobody knows anything. It's all speculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 The Summers thing has been done to death on the Glasgow thread, so what's the point of going over it all again? Nobody knows anything. It's all speculation. Exactly. So why do some either like to spread rumours, of if none can be found, make it up. Usual suspects with a big spoon....... come on downnnnnnnnn. PS Aaron was prob' my fav at Redcar over the last few seasons. A cracking and very entertaining rider who gives 100% on and off the track. Hope he finds a club soon and I honestly believe he's the deciding factor in Glasgow winning the league this season if he does or doesn't sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hutcheson Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 It has all been said in the Glesca thread, but it's a pretty big issue and not everyone wants to trawl the whole Glasgow 2015 thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 The BSPA can enforce a loan deal, it doesnt even have to be a full transfer - so Havvy's demands can have little impact - he will be riding for Glasgow end of story and no guarantee whatsoever that Redcar will get a transfer fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) The BSPA can enforce a loan deal, it doesnt even have to be a full transfer - so Havvy's demands can have little impact - he will be riding for Glasgow end of story and no guarantee whatsoever that Redcar will get a transfer fee.I suppose that could happen . He's Redcar's asset and they are perfectly entitled to ask whatever they want for him . Then it's up to any potential buyer whether they want to meet that valuation . Redcar can no longer fit him into their septet as it stands , so the danger is if Glasgow turn their attentions elsewhere and the lad gets frozen out . Lets hope that doesn't happen . But if what you suggest actually transpires , then it shows what a mockery the asset thing actually is . Time it was binned and any rider and clubs can negotiate with who they want at the end of every season . Edited January 2, 2015 by Paulco 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 The way i see it Summers will be at Glasgow next season.Either Redcar accept the amount Glasgow have offered or it will be a loan fee.The i would not have him riding for my club brigade must have a very good third heat leader as that will be his position for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Wait till nearer the end of Feb, and Redcar will be in the postion that they either cut their demands or will loan him to Glasgow.....but 100% he will be there I'll bet it's a full transfer. New money coming into the sport, splashing the cash, self proclaimed "Man City of speedway" - the old guard will show them whos boss and make them buy Summers this year - then probably force them to loan him out next year. Ask Sandhu and Frosts how it works! And Stuart Bamford too all them years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'll bet it's a full transfer. New money coming into the sport, splashing the cash, self proclaimed "Man City of speedway" - the old guard will show them whos boss and make them buy Summers this year - then probably force them to loan him out next year. Ask Sandhu and Frosts how it works! And Stuart Bamford too all them years ago.Us Jocks are more prudent with our cash 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'll bet it's a full transfer. New money coming into the sport, splashing the cash, self proclaimed "Man City of speedway" - the old guard will show them whos boss and make them buy Summers this year - then probably force them to loan him out next year. Ask Sandhu and Frosts how it works! And Stuart Bamford too all them years ago.that certainly seems to the way. Any new money seems to be seen as a cashpoint for the established that is played until it runs dry or runs away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Why did I think Summers was a Coventry Asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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