Greg Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 I was wonder where Arron Summers will end up now with him looking set to leave Redcar any ideas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 I was wonder where Arron Summers will end up now with him looking set to leave Redcar any ideas ? He'll be a Glasgow rider before January's out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 I thought that but heard nothing as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Glasgow want him He wants to go to Glasgow Brian Havelock wants a ridiculous transfer fee He won't get it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc1874 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Glasgow want him He wants to go to Glasgow Brian Havelock wants a ridiculous transfer fee He won't get it Transfer fees in speedway are dead ducks. Clubs don't have the money these days. It's a saga indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Glasgow want him He wants to go to Glasgow Brian Havelock wants a ridiculous transfer fee He won't get it Giving the actions of Havelock recently he`s just ridiculous full stop, actions that will come back to bite him with any luck. Summers will sign for Glasgow and the best of luck to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Transfer fees in speedway are dead ducks. Clubs don't have the money these days. It's a saga indeed Glasgow seem to have the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Glasgow seem to have the money. Yes but they won't pay 25k no one would It'll go to tribunal Havvy is just being an idiot and he'll find cooperation from some fellow promoters will be less forthcoming because of this and other acts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Glasgow seem to have the money. Which makes you wonder if Havelock would have been playing games with Summers future had it been another club or Glasgow last season? Or is it purely a case of Glasgow have been so fortunate to have the Facenna's step in so lets try and bleed some exhorbatent 'transfer' fee out of them by playing with a guys livlihood? Dont get me wrong, if there has been an illegal approach I would not condone that in any way but there is no evidence of that as yet and the portrait painted so far seems to be one of wanting a share of the other boys sweets in the playground 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Glasgow seem to have the money. Maybe so but we won't pay 25k for him in-fact i would be disappointed if we succumbed to Havelock's demands and paid anything at all but this will go to arbitration to sort out were they will set any fee to be paid Certainly putting some noses out off joint is Mr Havelock firstly with Kus & Berwick and Now Summers with us makes you wonder if Kus really wanted to go back to Berwick who told him that they couldn't afford the 21k Havelock was demanding and was afraid off not having a team place at all. Summers it seems is more stubborn it appears and has refused to back down to Havelock's tactics. Dangerous ploy to play by both but as i have said before other clubs will be observing how this pan's out and this may well come back to bite Havelock in the erse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Maybe so but we won't pay 25k for him in-fact i would be disappointed if we succumbed to Havelock's demands and paid anything at all but this will go to arbitration to sort out were they will set any fee to be paid Certainly putting some noses out off joint is Mr Havelock firstly with Kus & Berwick and Now Summers with us makes you wonder if Kus really wanted to go back to Berwick who told him that they couldn't afford the 21k Havelock was demanding and was afraid off not having a team place at all. Summers it seems is more stubborn it appears and has refused to back down to Havelock's tactics. Dangerous ploy to play by both but as i have said before other clubs will be observing how this pan's out and this may well come back to bite Havelock in the erse. Certainly would not pay money to sign Summers,if Glasgow had sense they would look elsewhere . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteliner Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Having witnessed Mr Havelock's tantrums over many many years I would say that he doesn't actually give a toss if Summers is riding this year or not. Mr Havelock has one priority and that is himself, he does not care what other people think about him and he is always right. Its my belief that he is after getting as much money together before he quits speedway altogether at the end of 2015. I say this because the lease at Redcar runs out after the 2015 season and the 3 people running the club are at an age when I cant see any of them wanting to re-new a lease. These 3 wise men who run Redcar have I believe had some very good offers to buy them out over the last couple of seasons, every offer being refused as it is their club. They want nobody else involved and are not willing to sell. 2015 could very well be the last year speedway takes place at Redcar, they would rather the place shuts down than sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Having witnessed Mr Havelock's tantrums over many many years I would say that he doesn't actually give a toss if Summers is riding this year or not. Mr Havelock has one priority and that is himself, he does not care what other people think about him and he is always right. Its my belief that he is after getting as much money together before he quits speedway altogether at the end of 2015. I say this because the lease at Redcar runs out after the 2015 season and the 3 people running the club are at an age when I cant see any of them wanting to re-new a lease. These 3 wise men who run Redcar have I believe had some very good offers to buy them out over the last couple of seasons, every offer being refused as it is their club. They want nobody else involved and are not willing to sell. 2015 could very well be the last year speedway takes place at Redcar, they would rather the place shuts down than sell. If this is indeed the case then it does go some way to explain the bravado attitude to other clubs wanting to sign riders which to a degree i can understand but there is only so far you can push things before it could go Pete Tong for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteliner Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Redcar opened up on 13th April 2006 on an initial 10 year lease. 2015 is the last year of the lease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Having witnessed Mr Havelock's tantrums over many many years I would say that he doesn't actually give a toss if Summers is riding this year or not. Mr Havelock has one priority and that is himself, he does not care what other people think about him and he is always right. Its my belief that he is after getting as much money together before he quits speedway altogether at the end of 2015. I say this because the lease at Redcar runs out after the 2015 season and the 3 people running the club are at an age when I cant see any of them wanting to re-new a lease. These 3 wise men who run Redcar have I believe had some very good offers to buy them out over the last couple of seasons, every offer being refused as it is their club. They want nobody else involved and are not willing to sell. 2015 could very well be the last year speedway takes place at Redcar, they would rather the place shuts down than sell. What a load of tosh that makes no sense what-so-ever. If brains were dynamite...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Maybe so but we won't pay 25k for him in-fact i would be disappointed if we succumbed to Havelock's demands and paid anything at all but this will go to arbitration to sort out were they will set any fee to be paid Certainly putting some noses out off joint is Mr Havelock firstly with Kus & Berwick and Now Summers with us makes you wonder if Kus really wanted to go back to Berwick who told him that they couldn't afford the 21k Havelock was demanding and was afraid off not having a team place at all. Summers it seems is more stubborn it appears and has refused to back down to Havelock's tactics. Dangerous ploy to play by both but as i have said before other clubs will be observing how this pan's out and this may well come back to bite Havelock in the erse. Kus seems to be very happy with next season. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/speedway/kus-confident-great-season-redcar-8320311 Does anyone have any actual proof of the £25,000 figure or that BH intends to let Redcar Bears rot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Do you really think Kus would say anything else? There are plenty similar statements from speedway riders forced into a corner and having to sign for a club coming out with similar lip service but later in their career saying differently. Surely no one is daft enough to think a rider who has just signed, whether by choice or necessity, for a club would be quoted in the press saying 'I really dont want to be here but...' 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Do you really think Kus would say anything else? There are plenty similar statements from speedway riders forced into a corner and having to sign for a club coming out with similar lip service but later in their career saying differently. Surely no one is daft enough to think a rider who has just signed, whether by choice or necessity, for a club would be quoted in the press saying 'I really dont want to be here but...' Yes, I think he would have protested very loudly if he didn't want to go along with it. He seemed to agree terms and sign up very quickly. You have no proof otherwise, just as those saying that Brian Havelock intends to abandon Redcar. I should think his most likely move would be to offer it to Gary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I think you are either at the wind up or very naive. Ever hear the phrase dont bite the hand that feeds you? If you read my post properly btw I do not claim to have proof one way or another - unlike some! I merely point out that it would be very unlikely to dis someone you have just signed for in the local rag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I think you are either at the wind up or very naive. Ever hear the phrase dont bite the hand that feeds you? If you read my post properly btw I do not claim to have proof one way or another - unlike some! I merely point out that it would be very unlikely to dis someone you have just signed for in the local rag Well thank you for your appraisal, I will reserve my opinion of yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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