Social Media For Speedway Teams

[Shale Searcher]

Or without Terry Russell speedway would have 100% of nothing. but could put a few videos on youtube.

 

I agree it's not ideal but it's better than nothing.

 

That said, if I was a promoter I'd be pretty peed off.

Who's to say the job wouldn't have been picked up by someone else...??

[SCB]

Who's to say the job wouldn't have been picked up by someone else...??

Lets assume it had - would someone else now be pocketing 20% of any Sky deal instead of Terry? What is different?

[BWitcher]

How can this be?? Have I been robbed?? Should I cancel my Subscription??

 

Just an hour or so since watching AB de Villiers superb world record ODI innings live I have just seen highlights on BBC news - for FREE!!

 

The match is still in progress - outrageous!

 

But seriously doesnt this prove my point about the Speedway restrictions.

 

The BBC will have paid to show the highlights no doubt.

 

So, no it doesn't prove anything.

[greyhoundp]

 

Bollocks! Anyone can receive Berwick's e-Newsletter.

 

Go to their website, enter your e-mail address and click. You go on their list, and receive every issue of the Newsletter from there on in, absolutely free.

 

Quiet in close season, maybe only two or three issues per month, but up to three or four every week of the season.

 

Secretive my pretty backside.........

 

 

you tell em gal.

[uk_martin]

One wonders how much Total Sport Radio paid to Terry Russell / SlowSpeed International Ltd for the broadcasting rights of the Swindon meetings, and how much other clubs will benefit from this deal beariing in mind the collective bargaining obligation that SlowSpeed International Ltd has on behalf of the BSPA.

[MattK]

One wonders how much Total Sport Radio paid to Terry Russell / SlowSpeed International Ltd for the broadcasting rights of the Swindon meetings, and how much other clubs will benefit from this deal beariing in mind the collective bargaining obligation that SlowSpeed International Ltd has on behalf of the BSPA.

 

Presumably the same as all the other sites and Twitter accounts which provide live updates?

[SCB]

One wonders how much Total Sport Radio paid to Terry Russell / SlowSpeed International Ltd for the broadcasting rights of the Swindon meetings, and how much other clubs will benefit from this deal beariing in mind the collective bargaining obligation that SlowSpeed International Ltd has on behalf of the BSPA.

You can't copyright news. All they're doing is reporting a result.

[uk_martin]

You can't copyright news. All they're doing is reporting a result.

 

You can't copyright the news but you can license the broadcasting rights of a TV or radio station to fill up it's programming schedule with stuff that it believes will give it an audience. That's the basis that TV companies pay billions for, to cover football. Everything has its value. Even speedway. So if Swindon's speedway meetings provide something attractive and valuable to Total Sport Radio, they should be made to pay for the privilage to broadcast it, shouldn't they? And the proceeds distributed to all and sunder in the BSPA, shouldn't it?

 

After all, wasn't "not having the broadcasting rights" the reason why Buster and Jonathan Chapman expelled the BBC WM Radio personnel from the Norfolk Arena back in 2010?

[MattK]

 

You can't copyright the news but you can license the broadcasting rights of a TV or radio station to fill up it's programming schedule with stuff that it believes will give it an audience. That's the basis that TV companies pay billions for, to cover football. Everything has its value. Even speedway. So if Swindon's speedway meetings provide something attractive and valuable to Total Sport Radio, they should be made to pay for the privilage to broadcast it, shouldn't they? And the proceeds distributed to all and sunder in the BSPA, shouldn't it?

 

After all, wasn't "not having the broadcasting rights" the reason why Buster and Jonathan Chapman expelled the BBC WM Radio personnel from the Norfolk Arena back in 2010?

 

I think charging a local news outlets for the "rights" to cover your sport would be the dictionary definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Either way, I don't think live text updates has any inherent value, certainly not compared to live TV or even radio, therefore it would be unlikely any outlet would pay for the privilege.

[SCB]

 

You can't copyright the news but you can license the broadcasting rights of a TV or radio station to fill up it's programming schedule with stuff that it believes will give it an audience.

So what is the relevance to some local website sending some tweets? What are go speed going to do, get everyone who goes to a meeting to drop their mobile into a pile before they enter?

[Trees]

www.saynoto0870.com!!

[uk_martin]

So what is the relevance to some local website sending some tweets? What are go speed going to do, get everyone who goes to a meeting to drop their mobile into a pile before they enter?

 

There's a big difference between individuals sending out texts or tweets and commercial radio stations such as Total Sport Radio or BBC Radio WM doing live broadcasts to fill up their air time. And don't think that if the promoters could do something about the use of mobile phones, they would hesitate.

[RobMcCaffery]

 

There's a big difference between individuals sending out texts or tweets and commercial radio stations such as Total Sport Radio or BBC Radio WM doing live broadcasts to fill up their air time. And don't think that if the promoters could do something about the use of mobile phones, they would hesitate.

BBC Radio WM is not a commercial radio station, however, but a public service broadcaster, like all of the domestic BBC services. It has no need or reason to 'fill up air time' since all midweek sports content is in addition to the normal service between 7 and 10 pm on weekdays which is to broadcast the networked Mark Forrest show, a service imposed on all BBC Local Radio stations by the necessary cuts to BBC broadcasting caused by the freezing of the licence fee. Any sport coverage has to be argued for within the BBC with a strong justification why they Forrest show should be replaced.

 

So, BBC WM is not involved in speedway for any form of commercial gain. It is not looking for material to fill the gaps between adverts. It clearly chooses to cover speedway on the basis that it is part of their public service remit to the West Midlands.

 

Speedway should be delighted that the BBC shows such interest locally since our sport takes its place as a major sport in the area, not the ignored minority status given elsewhere. Our sport receives prime coverage by BBC WM, secondly only to football. Lord knows why!

 

And faced with this publicity windfall what does speedway do? It bans them from covering Birmingham meetings last year and they get turfed out of King's Lynn over petty broadcast fees. This at a time when many minor sports pay to be broadcast!

 

Speedway's chronic lack of vision is exemplified by this behaviour. It can only see the short-term financial gain and can't see it needs to invest in publicity in order to prosper. Sometimes this investment is in care and consideration, not monetary. On the whole it refuses to advertise in local press or commercial radio yet still expects free publicity. Too often its journalists are regarded as 'freeloaders' and met with suspicion. It is clear that is not the case in some enlightened examples and they in turn get excellent coverage in their local media.

 

Speedway needs all the help it can get and perhaps one small step forwards is to recognise that you can't monetise all coverage. Petty fees for short term gain are acting as a strait-jacket on the sport, but then given the squalid state of it these days perhaps its best if journalists and the wider public don't look too carefully.

 

Speedway should be embracing BBC WM's interest, not viewing it as a threat to suck money out of.

[Guest]

BBC Radio WM is not a commercial radio station, however, but a public service broadcaster, like all of the domestic BBC services. It has no need or reason to 'fill up air time' since all midweek sports content is in addition to the normal service between 7 and 10 pm on weekdays which is to broadcast the networked Mark Forrest show, a service imposed on all BBC Local Radio stations by the necessary cuts to BBC broadcasting caused by the freezing of the licence fee. Any sport coverage has to be argued for within the BBC with a strong justification why they Forrest show should be replaced.

 

So, BBC WM is not involved in speedway for any form of commercial gain. It is not looking for material to fill the gaps between adverts. It clearly chooses to cover speedway on the basis that it is part of their public service remit to the West Midlands.

 

Speedway should be delighted that the BBC shows such interest locally since our sport takes its place as a major sport in the area, not the ignored minority status given elsewhere. Our sport receives prime coverage by BBC WM, secondly only to football. Lord knows why!

 

And faced with this publicity windfall what does speedway do? It bans them from covering Birmingham meetings last year and they get turfed out of King's Lynn over petty broadcast fees. This at a time when many minor sports pay to be broadcast!

 

Speedway's chronic lack of vision is exemplified by this behaviour. It can only see the short-term financial gain and can't see it needs to invest in publicity in order to prosper. Sometimes this investment is in care and consideration, not monetary. On the whole it refuses to advertise in local press or commercial radio yet still expects free publicity. Too often its journalists are regarded as 'freeloaders' and met with suspicion. It is clear that is not the case in some enlightened examples and they in turn get excellent coverage in their local media.

 

Speedway needs all the help it can get and perhaps one small step forwards is to recognise that you can't monetise all coverage. Petty fees for short term gain are acting as a strait-jacket on the sport, but then given the squalid state of it these days perhaps its best if journalists and the wider public don't look too carefully.

 

Speedway should be embracing BBC WM's interest, not viewing it as a threat to suck money out of.

 

We are, however, talking about speedway!

[uk_martin]

Speedway should be embracing BBC WM's interest, not viewing it as a threat to suck money out of.

 

If only you could turn the clock back and tell that to Chapman & Son at Kings Lynn.

[The White Knight]

BBC Radio WM is not a commercial radio station, however, but a public service broadcaster, like all of the domestic BBC services. It has no need or reason to 'fill up air time' since all midweek sports content is in addition to the normal service between 7 and 10 pm on weekdays which is to broadcast the networked Mark Forrest show, a service imposed on all BBC Local Radio stations by the necessary cuts to BBC broadcasting caused by the freezing of the licence fee. Any sport coverage has to be argued for within the BBC with a strong justification why they Forrest show should be replaced.

 

So, BBC WM is not involved in speedway for any form of commercial gain. It is not looking for material to fill the gaps between adverts. It clearly chooses to cover speedway on the basis that it is part of their public service remit to the West Midlands.

 

Speedway should be delighted that the BBC shows such interest locally since our sport takes its place as a major sport in the area, not the ignored minority status given elsewhere. Our sport receives prime coverage by BBC WM, secondly only to football. Lord knows why!

 

And faced with this publicity windfall what does speedway do? It bans them from covering Birmingham meetings last year and they get turfed out of King's Lynn over petty broadcast fees. This at a time when many minor sports pay to be broadcast!

 

Speedway's chronic lack of vision is exemplified by this behaviour. It can only see the short-term financial gain and can't see it needs to invest in publicity in order to prosper. Sometimes this investment is in care and consideration, not monetary. On the whole it refuses to advertise in local press or commercial radio yet still expects free publicity. Too often its journalists are regarded as 'freeloaders' and met with suspicion. It is clear that is not the case in some enlightened examples and they in turn get excellent coverage in their local media.

 

Speedway needs all the help it can get and perhaps one small step forwards is to recognise that you can't monetise all coverage. Petty fees for short term gain are acting as a strait-jacket on the sport, but then given the squalid state of it these days perhaps its best if journalists and the wider public don't look too carefully.

 

Speedway should be embracing BBC WM's interest, not viewing it as a threat to suck money out of.

I knew nothing about this Ban. Speedway Promoters should think a thousand shames of themselves. A platform for some good publicity to showcase the Sport - and a public Service to their Supporters - and they BAN the BBC.

 

Talk about cutting your own throat.

 

I totally agree with your final sentence rmc.

 

I sometimes wonder why I love such a SHAMATEUR SPORT!!! :sad: :sad: