Ghostwalker Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) F-s-p I also wonder why Jensen was allowed to ride in the Danish qualifiers but was told that he could since he was a Danish citizen which was the only thing that matters for SGP/SWC and etc... Svemo's website does not say anything about license/nationality since it's blank for Jensen however since he is also listed for Vargarna in Allsvenskan as guest rider, he have to have a Swedish license since he wouldn't be allowed to be a guest rider otherwise. http://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/TeamSections.aspx?TeamId=378 http://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/TeamSections.aspx?TeamId=360 Edited May 27, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 F-s-p I also wonder why Jensen was allowed to ride in the Danish qualifiers but was told that he could since he was a Danish citizen which was the only thing that matters for SGP/SWC and etc... Svemo's website does not say anything about license/nationality since it's blank for Jensen however since he is also listed for Vargarna in Allsvenskan as guest rider, he have to have a Swedish license since he wouldn't be allowed to be a guest rider otherwise. http://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/TeamSections.aspx?TeamId=378 http://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/TeamSections.aspx?TeamId=360 Danish quali's are just Danish quali's. SGP quali in Abensberg if a FIM meeting where he's listed as DK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Danish quali's are just Danish quali's. SGP quali in Abensberg if a FIM meeting where he's listed as DK. I don't know about the rules fo SGP/SWC eligibility , but as I wrote there is no doubt that Jensen uses a Swedish license in the Swedish league racing this season since he is listed as a guest rider for Vargarna and guest riders are limited to Swedish licensed riders only. Also Holta rode SGP/SWC on different licenses/nationalities but I don't know what the rules say. Edited May 27, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Lambert rode in the GB under 21s (and the senior GB semi) but he could not go any further due to his license. Rasmus Jensen would I assume be the same, can ride at Danish level but could not go any further unless the Swedes nominate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I don't know about the rules fo SGP/SWC eligibility , but as I wrote there is no doubt that Jensen uses a Swedish license in the Swedish league racing this season since he is listed as a guest rider for Vargarna and guest riders are limited to Swedish licensed riders only. That is not possible. Jensen rode in Abensberg with a DMU license and the Danish nationality. Riders can't have multiple licenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) That is not possible. Jensen rode in Abensberg with a DMU license and the Danish nationality. Riders can't have multiple licenses. I know that is what so strange. He couldn't ride in Abensberg for DK unless he was on a Danish license and at the same time he can't ride for both Dackarna and Vargarna in Sweden unless he has a Swedish license. The rules are very clear regarding that matter (rule * 5.21.1 Gästförare) http://multi.mediapaper.nu/?PubId=DD68E34B36A2C71B3560BAEA4565AD03 Avtal om gästkontrakt kan endast slutas mellan klubb och Svensklicensierad förare A deal regarding guest rider contract can only be signed between the club and a Swedish licensed rider So the question is how he can ride under Danish flag in the GP-qualifier at the same time as he is registered for two teams in Sweden which required a Swedish license? Edited May 27, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I know that is what so strange. He couldn't ride in Abensberg for DK unless he was on a Danish license and at the same time he can't ride for both Dackarna and Vargarna in Sweden unless he has a Swedish license. The rules are very clear regarding that matter (rule * 5.21.1 Gästförare) http://multi.mediapaper.nu/?PubId=DD68E34B36A2C71B3560BAEA4565AD03 So the question is how he can ride under Danish flag in the GP-qualifier at the same time as he is registered for two teams in Sweden which required a Swedish license? Svemo's blooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Svemo's blooper. How were they supposed to know over half a year ago that Jensen would ride in the GP-qualifiers for Denmark? All licenses and team registrations were made in October/November last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) That is not possible. Jensen rode in Abensberg with a DMU license and the Danish nationality. Riders can't have multiple licenses. Are you sure about that? I have sent an email to Tony Olsson asking for clarification regarding Swedish licenses and riding in the GP-qualification for another nations federation. I was thinking that what country the rider represent perhaps is only dependent on nationality regardless of what national license the rider uses. So since Rasmus Jensen is still a Danish citizens he will represent DMU/DK in the GP/SWC/SC +qualifications to those. Edited May 27, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Are you sure about that? I have sent an email to Tony Olsson asking for clarification regarding Swedish licenses and riding in the GP-qualification for another nations federation. I was thinking that what country you represent perhaps is only dependent on nationality regardless of Nation. So since Rasmus Jensen is still a Danish citizens he will represent DMU/DK in the GP/SWC/SC +qualifications to those. Good thing U asked. We wait now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 So since Rasmus Jensen is still a Danish citizens he will represent DMU/DK in the GP/SWC/SC +qualifications to those. It license for GP but passport for SWC. As evidence I once again use Robert Lambert as my example, he's riding for GB but they could not put him forward for the Under 21 titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) It license for GP but passport for SWC. As evidence I once again use Robert Lambert as my example, he's riding for GB but they could not put him forward for the Under 21 titles.When talking about just one discipline, thats about spot on. GP meaning qualis and U21's as well. EDIT page 144 from this one. http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/download/46722/download/Library/no_cache/1/ Edited May 27, 2015 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Are you sure about that? Yes, on the official starting list and official results he is listed as a DMU licenced rider. It license for GP but passport for SWC. As evidence I once again use Robert Lambert as my example, he's riding for GB but they could not put him forward for the Under 21 titles. Another case: Theo Pijper rides with a FFM (France) license in the Longtrack GP's but he represents KNMV (The Netherlands) in the Longtrack Teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Tony Olsson confirms that Rasmus Jensen have a Swedish license and that he is a Danish citizen. He didn't know or want to answer why Rasmus was allowed to ride in the Danish qualifiers and said that it was something I had to ask DMU about. Edited May 28, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Tony Olsson confirms that Rasmus Jensen have a Swedish license and that he is a Danish citizen. He didn't know or want to answer why Rasmus was allowed to ride in the Danish qualifiers and said that it was something I had to ask DMU about. So it is a svemo blooper. If Jensen has been given a license from his own/DMU federation, Svemo just cant give him another one. From Svemo/DMU point of view, this situation needs to be clarified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Does anybody know when the next round of this is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Does anybody know when the next round of this is? 27.06 Terenzano 27.06 Riga And the final: 05.09 Rybnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The draws have been made:Terenzano (Italy)1. Jurica Pavlic2. Vaclav Milik3. Fredrik Lindgren4. Przemyslaw Pawlicki5. Felipe Nicolas Covatti (wildcard)6. Chris Harris7. Max Fricke8. Michael Jepsen Jensen9. Martin Vaculik10. Piotr Pawlicki11. Kim Nilsson12. Tobias Kroner13. Kacper Gomolski (wildcard)14. Martin Smolinski15. Jesper B. Monberg16. Sam Masters--17. Mathieu Tresarieu18. David BelegoRiga (Latvia)1. Peter Ljung2. Andzejs Lebedevs (wildcard)3. Ricky Wells4. Antonio Lindback5. Andryi Karpov6. Miroslaw Jablonski7. Dakota North8. Kenneth Bjerre9. Kats Puodzuks (wildcard)10. Oleksandr Loktaev11. Peter Kildemand12. Linus Sundström13. Kevin Wölbert14. Maksims Bogdanovs15. Karol Baran16. Leon Mdsen--17. Eduard Krcmar18. Kauko Nieminen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'd say Chris Harris is in the toughest draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'd say Chris Harris is in the toughest draw. Probably has. But frankly, he should be capable of top 5. If you want to qualify for next season you have to finish top 3(?) in the final so you can hardly complain if you can't make top 5 in the semi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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