Marcelle Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) What a bellend you really are!! harris has qualified on merit, it has not been handed to him so whatever anybody says he is in the top 15 in the world at hes job, im sure you wouldnt mind being in the top 15 in the world at your job! HAHA..I got Banned for calling someone a Knob..Be careful Fen! Edited September 6, 2015 by Marcelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentiger888 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 HAHA..I got Banned for calling someone a Knob..Be careful Fen! Ha fair enough mate, i be watch what i say in future although i believe im right in what, maybe hes just a silly chap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Why does Harris bother qualifying when he will be subscribing to the last place anyway? Greg has 17 heat wins though. Bomber only 4. 4 heats win from 8 GPS? To put your point into context using Swedish riders, let’s look of the performance of every permanent Swedish rider in the last 3 years compared with Bomber: Chris Harris 2015. 8 GP's, 38 Heats, 4 Wins – 10.53% Chris Harris 2013. 12 GP’s, 60 Heats, 4 Wins – 6.67% Andreas Jonsson 2015. 8 GP’s, 39 Heats, 4 Wins – 10.26% Andreas Jonsson 2014. 12 GP’s, 67 Heats, 14 Wins – 20.90% Andreas Jonsson 2013. 11 GP’s, 54 Heats, 5 Wins – 9.26% Freddie Lindgren 2014. 12 GP’s, 68 Heats, 8 Wins – 11.76% Freddie Lindgren 2013. 12 GP’s, 64 Heats, 5 Wins – 7.81% Antonio Lindback 2013. 12 GP’s, 60 Heats, 5 Wins – 8.33% Tomas H Jonasson 2015. 8 GP’s, 34 Heats, 2 Wins – 5.88 % So ALL FOUR Swedish riders have had a worse heat wins percentage return than Chris Harris … and there are only seven total seasons to "achieve” that poor record. In fact five of those seven Swedish returns have a worse Heat Winning record than Harris has this season. Two British riders have qualified for 2016 (Tai has enough points already bar freak results). Currently no Swedish rider has qualified or is in a qualifying position. That suggests one or more Swedish riders from the above list will be handed a place; the scenario that has earnt Harris so much criticism over the years. I should add on certainly one year I totally disagreed with Harris receiving a Wildcard. So I don’t think your 4 Heat Wins in 8 GP’s argument suggests Harris is so out classed, he is automatically going to finish in last place. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 If i was having a bet last night i was confident Pawlicki Jnr would qualify, i like Shamek a great stylist his turn will come.Bomber what a big ask it was! against Shamek,Kildemand,Lindback,Madsen (all riders i felt had a sniff) .Also Chris has been active loads of meeting's guest appearances ( ect) in the last few weeks i am so chuffed for him .Vaculik is another rider not to forget, he has won a GP, and his form this year has been pretty good he had a blip why is he any different to Kildemand/ and certainly Lindback.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Good to see Bomber qualify on merit. He may not be top eight material but he gives it a real go and is now on new machinery. A full season on the new engine will be decent to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 with that result im sure hampel will be one wildcard, would guess lindback for the other especially with no swedes, and them getting two gp rounds....personally would like lindstrum myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 with that result im sure hampel will be one wildcard, would guess lindback for the other especially with no swedes, and them getting two gp rounds....personally would like lindstrum myself As least Lindback will have some great races but will be inconsistent. he will probably finish last in a few GPs and win one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 with that result im sure hampel will be one wildcard, would guess lindback for the other especially with no swedes, and them getting two gp rounds....personally would like lindstrum myself Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 with that result im sure hampel will be one wildcard, would guess lindback for the other especially with no swedes, and them getting two gp rounds....personally would like lindstrum myself Who? I reckon it's strategy to combine the points of Lindback and Sundstrom into a "single rider" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 What a bellend you really are!! harris has qualified on merit, it has not been handed to him so whatever anybody says he is in the top 15 in the world at hes job, im sure you wouldnt mind being in the top 15 in the world at your job! Lol, reminds me of the Brian Clough quote “I wouldn’t say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the top one.Classic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 with that result im sure hampel will be one wildcard, would guess lindback for the other especially with no swedes, and them getting two gp rounds....personally would like lindstrum myselfHampel may be struggling if Magic qualifies by right.Can't see 1 nation having 4 riders in the GP series.If magic does qualify by right the wildcards will be 2 Swedes plus 1 Dane if only 2 Danes are in the top 8 either Kildermand or Jepson Jensen. The last one is anybody's guess, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Lol, reminds me of the Brian Clough quote “I wouldn’t say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the top one. Classic The great man also said Football was not meant to be played in the clouds how true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yes! Just like Andy. I always had a lot of respect for Andy....obviously a talented and hard-working rider but had mysterious lapses of form....as does Bomber. He deserves congratulations in making it through a tough qualifying series. Harris like Andy can't get gate, and that's always going to be an issue at the very top level. Add that neither could probably justify the expense of having machinery as good as the very top riders, both were always going to struggle in GPs (you could add someone like Morton to that list, a rider who achieved everything else but found on world final night you just couldnt give so much ground away from the start and had a best place of eighth from around 8 finals). To avoid the embarrassment of finishing last? This year he has been saved by Kasperzak and Hampel. THJ will likely overtake him, 1p behind but with 4 less heats. Harris is a 5 point rider in GPS, meaning on average he is beaten by two riders and beats one - hardly an embarrassing record. His issue is that he never pulls out the really big meetings, but consistently picks up 4-7 points. But on form across all comps this season i think he rates ahead of Batch, THJ and KK. What is more embarrassing is if Sweden get given two WC spots again. Think you are both looking at this from the wrong perspective or misreading what some are saying.Not sure anyone has said he doesn't deserve it or that others deserve it more.What I am saying for instance is I would rather have seen a rider who could do well in the GPs qualify over someone who seemingly can't do well. There is nothing so called about these stats.Not that I want Kildemand over Harris.But there is no doubt Kildemand is the better GP rider PK-12,8,3,14,9 CH-7,6,5,5,4,5,2,5 Harris got through and so deserves his place.That doesn't mean I look forward to seeing him ride in the series next year.Liglad also seemed to have trouble in the Challenge,but is also doing better in the series than Harris.That is speedway for you.But no need to try and twist what people are saying Exactly. By pretty much any measure the likes of Killer, Lindback, Prem Pawlicki, Lindgren, MJJ who failed in the qualifiers have been better this season, and would be likely to do better in the GPs next season. But Harris has qualified on merit. I note that noone is complaining about Zmarzlick qualifying after being giften a spot in the Challenge, wheras plenty did when Harris got the same treatment. Hardly big bucks don't believe that is the only reason he is riding the four Euro rounds.Also they have Nicki in it why is he not the spearhead? without Emil in it the quality in the Euros is pretty decent anyway. The thinking Sid is that Emil is being paid more than just the standard SEC prizemoney to be the "poster child." - a rider who competes only in SEC and not GPS (unlike Nicki) Agree even without EMil the field is pretty good, but hardly comparable to GP line up if you remove him. with that result im sure hampel will be one wildcard, would guess lindback for the other especially with no swedes, and them getting two gp rounds....personally would like lindstrum myself I think it's a bad result surely for Hampel - had only one Pole qualified he would have been virtually guaranteed a spot. As it is, hopefully common sense prevails and we do see 4 Poles (and 4 Danes too if Emil turns down a spot, as Killer is worthy of a place even if MJJ finishes top 3 - certainly in both cases more deservicing than a second Swede) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Just voicing my opinion ! Harris does nothing to improve the GP's what so ever & would welcome a change in the way of qualifying regardless of the way he qualified ! If said other riders can’t outperform Harris/qualify instead of him, what do you suggest they will bring to the GP’s? It’s actually just possible/there is a load of evidence to suggest that out of the riders who attempt to qualify for the GP Harris is in the top 16 of those riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Tbh I don't think Harris is one of the top 20 riders in the world. But there is not a huge difference in quality between someone who is 21st in the world or 41st. Harris qualified, and deserved to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 what the challenge shows is that on a normally prepared track harris is a good rider, not brilliant but good. i much prefer harris than the "percentage" riding of greg and tai. get a facst gate hang on for second place is greg methodology, not exciting to watch at all. tai, now has realised its a numbers game and is content with seconds, To me the GP scoring is at fault, whoever wins the final should get five points more than the highest score, making getting to the final and winning the GP the most important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not sure you are right about tai, he's produced some incredible rides this season that I suspect no other rider in the world except perhaps Emil and Darcy could have produced. The gp points system is perfect imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not sure you are right about tai, he's produced some incredible rides this season that I suspect no other rider in the world except perhaps Emil and Darcy could have produced. Heat 4 last time? Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Martin Vaculik in an interview saying he would readily accept a GP wildcard for 2016- felt he wasn`t ready when in it before but now is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Certainly one example. Hardly "settling for second" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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