norbold Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) In an almost season opener at Plough Lane Wimbledon in 1956 there was a Best Pairs Competition that included five world Champions.They wereRonnie Moore (13 pts), Peter Craven (7), Tommy Price(2), Ove Fundin(12), and Barry Briggs(9). Brian Crutcher joint top scored with Ronnie Moore on thirteen points Has there ever been a meeting with five world champions in it? If, as you have done, you're including World Champions to be as well, the Internationale Final 1961 had six world champions riding, five of whom had already won the World Championship. Jack Young, Ronnie Moore, Peter Craven, Ove Fundin, Barry Briggs plus Bjorn Knutson. The Tom Farndon Memorial Trophy at New Cross in 1961 contained Jack Young, Ronnie Moore, Bjorn Knutson, Barry Briggs and Peter Craven. I expect, in answer to your question, it has happened reasonably frequently. Edited January 6, 2015 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The 1980 Longtrack world final included Maier(LT world champ) Müller Mauger Olsen Collins Lee Spinka(Ice world champ) Michanek Penhall Wiesböck(LT wc) was disq When I said an almost season opener , I meant it was the second meeting of the season. Where did I say current world champions? Well obviously only one was a current world champ,so i wasn't even suggesting that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 2013 gp series included hancock pedersen woffinden holder and gollob. So 5 wprld champs in at least a dozen meetings that season alone. If youre including futurre world champs, then ward makes it six But must be common. 87 world finsl with gundersen nielsen jonsson jan o and ermolenko for example. 80 blrc I think had lee mauger olsen collins penhall nielsen - the inter continental final that year had all of them definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) I remember the original post-war 'Golden Helmet' match races when the one-and-only Jack Parker dominated the competition. I recall many of his clashes against the stars of the late 1940s early 1950s but won't recount recollections on here in case I upset fellow posters.! Why, were Chris Harris or Darcy Ward involved in any of them? Nice subtle comment Norman. I get what point you are making - I think many others on the BSF will be baffled. Edited January 6, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I remember the original post-war 'Golden Helmet' match races when the one-and-only Jack Parker dominated the competition. I recall many of his clashes against the stars of the late 1940s early 1950s but won't recount recollections on here in case I upset fellow posters.! I for one would be interested to hear more about these, I doubt anyone folliowng this thread would have any objection yo the topic diverging 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Count me as one of the forumlanders that didn't get Norbold's comment re Chris Harris and Darcy Ward. Who they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Count me as one of the forumlanders that didn't get Norbold's comment re Chris Harris and Darcy Ward. Who they?? Me too. Puzzled. Sunderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) Does anyone have statistics of direct duels between Peter Craven, Ronnie Moore, Barry Briggs and Ove Fundin? In the 1950s. and 60s, when Golden Helmet was very popular, they 4 WOLRD CHAMPIONS were very dominant und they met each others very often. Such a results would be very interesting... Going back to the very early world championships, the Americans Jack and Cordy Milne and Wilbur Lamoreaux look to have been useful world championship contenders. Cordy also headed the qualifiers for the 1939 World Championship which was not held because of the outbreak of World War Two. :::: 1937: Jack Milne Wilbur Lamoreaux Cordy Milne 1938: Bluey Wilkinson (Australia) Jack Milne Wilbur Lamoreaux Edited January 7, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I remember the original post-war 'Golden Helmet' match races when the one-and-only Jack Parker dominated the competition. I recall many of his clashes against the stars of the late 1940s early 1950s but won't recount recollections on here in case I upset fellow posters.! I for one would be interested to hear more about these, I doubt anyone folliowng this thread would have any objection yo the topic diverging Sorry, no memories. I wouldn't like waiheaces1 to turn my comments into another "Barry Butterworth scenario"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 In an almost season opener at Plough Lane Wimbledon in 1956 there was a Best Pairs Competition that included five world Champions.They wereRonnie Moore (13 pts), Peter Craven (7), Tommy Price(2), Ove Fundin(12), and Barry Briggs(9). Brian Crutcher joint top scored with Ronnie Moore on thirteen points Has there ever been a meeting with five world champions in it? Heat 6 of the 1962 World Final at Wembley had a race with four world champions in it. Beat that! Briggs, Craven, Knutsson and Fundin finished in that order. It was Craven's only defeat of the evening and he went on to win the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Heat 6 of the 1962 World Final at Wembley had a race with four world champions in it. Beat that! Briggs, Craven, Knutsson and Fundin finished in that order. It was Craven's only defeat of the evening and he went on to win the title. And people wonder why this old-timer prefers the World Final to GP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sorry, no memories. I wouldn't like waiheaces1 to turn my comments into another "Barry Butterworth scenario"! Let me down gently,if you have to let me down at all!!!! How did i know that would be your answer Heat 6 of the 1962 World Final at Wembley had a race with four world champions in it. Beat that! Briggs, Craven, Knutsson and Fundin finished in that order. It was Craven's only defeat of the evening and he went on to win the title. Quite possible in the Longtrack final(6 riders in a heat,i think) i mentioned earlier that 4,5 or even 6 world champs raced against each other in a heat.Don't have the details to check though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think the name of Bjorn Knutsson should be added to that list. Back in the 60's they were known as the "Big 5" and in a class of their own. I would also add Brian Crutcher at least the equal of all of them on his day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I woz there folks when Knutsson finally won in 1965, reckon if he'd kept going could have won it again. Were any other forumlanders there at Wembley in 1965-or am I the last survivor!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 There must be plenty of us still around Bob, we're still youngsters really - trapped in older bodies. lol Yes that was a good night when Knutsson won. Shame Plechanov could not have done the same. For him, and Boris Samarodov, to come to Wembly and do what they did was remarkable really. I have no doubt if there had been the GP season then, like now, one of them, at least, would have ended up world champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Sorry, no memories. I wouldn't like waiheaces1 to turn my comments into another "Barry Butterworth scenario"! that's a shame as when you post about old time speedway, which unlike most of the bsf you got to witness first hand, you could bring a lot of value to the forum.unlike on threads like the barry butterworth one where you seem simply to be on a wind up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I was there in 1965, BOBBATH, and supporting our former captain. Yay! Edited January 13, 2015 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was there...oh joy!. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I woz there folks when Knutsson finally won in 1965, reckon if he'd kept going could have won it again. Were any other forumlanders there at Wembley in 1965-or am I the last survivor!! Yes I was there and a few before that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 There must be plenty of us still around Bob, we're still youngsters really - trapped in older bodies. lol Yes that was a good night when Knutsson won. Shame Plechanov could not have done the same. For him, and Boris Samarodov, to come to Wembly and do what they did was remarkable really. I have no doubt if there had been the GP season then, like now, one of them, at least, would have ended up world champ. Plechanov certainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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