Jacques Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) What i dont get is that Bridger had one of his best seasons in Speedway for Lakeside and he ends up quitting the sport at the endd of the season because in his words I fell out of love with speedway"".Surely the past season should have spurred him on to go even better this year,but it seems to have the opposite effect!!!.Whats he gonna do now work wise? Well, most chavs of his age doss all day and claim benefits...? Edited February 25, 2015 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Well, most chavs of his age do, doss all day and claim benefits...? I thought the took drugs and raced away from the police on pit bikes?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 What i dont get is that Bridger had one of his best seasons in Speedway for Lakeside and he ends up quitting the sport at the endd of the season because in his words I fell out of love with speedway"".Surely the past season should have spurred him on to go even better this year,but it seems to have the opposite effect!!!.Whats he gonna do now work wise?then blows all his earnings in Ibiza and America decides he wants to ride again and wants finance to set him up to help him earn money for next winters jaunts.Mugs are getting short supply I'm afraid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I thought the took drugs and raced away from the police on pit bikes?! no wonder he's annoyed horton wouldn't buy him a bike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I thought the took drugs and raced away from the police on pit bikes?! That's the Australian version .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 What i dont get is that Bridger had one of his best seasons in Speedway for Lakeside and he ends up quitting the sport at the endd of the season because in his words I fell out of love with speedway"".Surely the past season should have spurred him on to go even better this year,but it seems to have the opposite effect!!!.Whats he gonna do now work wise? Still a couple of places left at Poole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Still a couple of places left at Poole? Can't see Poole wasting their time on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Of course not. After all, he's British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Whilst I take on board many points about Lewis's apparent lack of professionalism, let's not get de-railed and forget the main issue here. It appears, and Mr. Horton hasn't denied this, that the Coventry Speedway Promotion agreed (possibly via a verbal 'gentleman's agreement') to help Lewis out financially. If that is the case, then it appears that they have rescinded upon that agreement. So, irrespective of Lewis Bridger selling his equipment; holidays taken from profits; people's perception of him as a person, etc. the Coventry Promotion do not appear to be honouring their prior commitment to him. THAT my friends is THE reason why Lewis Bridger isn't riding now riding for Coventry Speedway. Everything else is completely immaterial. A smoke-screen if you will, for the very real root cause of the problem that's arisen. It is highly probable that when Lewis was approached, he would have made it clear that he didn't have engines, etc. Not having the money to buy these (irrespective of the reason) I can imagine that he was subsequently offered financial support. IF that offer of support has now been removed, for whatever reason, then how on earth is the guy supposed to take his position within the team? We aren't talking about the old days when a rider was part-time and had one bike strapped to the back of a Ford Granada, we're talking here about one of the most successful teams in the top-tier of British Speedway. It is obvious that there would have needed to have been considerable investment in equipment - that was race-worthy for the Elite League. If this support had not been offered, then I'm quite certain Mr Horton would have alluded to that fact in his clubs' defence. Allegations made by Lewis Bridger would surely have been defended if they hadn't been true? Sorry but Mr. Horton's subsequent statement of response says absolutely nothing, yet at the same time (from my perspective anyway), it says EVERYTHING about who's the guilty party in this instance. And this incident comes on the back of the Kenneth Hansen dispute. As the old saying goes "there's never smoke without fire" - and whilst I fully expect Cov supporters to perhaps say otherwise, it's apparent that the Coventry Promotion (and in that I include Mr Gary Havelock) clearly have a major problem with how they deal effectively with some riders. To my mind, Lewis Bridger had that financial support pulled for a reason - because it's a simple solution for removing him from the team. And I may be cynical, but I cannot imagine that reason being for any other purpose than replacing him with someone else already lined up - particularly this close to the commencement of the 2015 Season. Edited February 26, 2015 by The Voice Of Reason 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Perhaps the 2 bikes that Bomber was getting for him proved to be so good that Bomber kept them?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Whilst I take on board many points about Lewis's apparent lack of professionalism, let's not get de-railed and forget the main issue here. It appears, and Mr. Horton hasn't denied this, that the Coventry Speedway Promotion agreed (possibly via a verbal 'gentleman's agreement') to help Lewis out financially. If that is the case, then it appears that they have rescinded upon that agreement. So, irrespective of Lewis Bridger selling his equipment, holidays taken from profits, people's perception of him as a person, etc. the Coventry Promotion do not appear to be honouring their commitment to him. THAT my friends is THE reason why Lewis Bridger isn't riding now riding for Coventry Speedway. Everything else is completely immaterial. It is highly probable that when Lewis was approached, he would have made it clear that he didn't have engines, etc. Not having the money to buy these (irrespective of the reason) I can imagine that he was subsequently offered financial support. IF that offer of support has now been removed, for whatever reason, then how on earth is the guy supposed to take his position within the team? We aren't talking about the old days when a rider was part-time and had one bike strapped to the back of a Ford Granada, we're talking here about one of the most successful teams in the top-tier of British Speedway. It is obvious that there would have needed to have been considerable investment in equipment - that was race-worthy for the Elite League. If this support had not been offered, then I'm quite certain Mr Horton would have alluded to that fact in his clubs' defence. Allegations made by Lewis Bridger would surely have been defended if they hadn't been true? Sorry but Mr. Horton's subsequent statement of response says absolutely nothing, yet at the same time (from my perspective anyway), it says EVERYTHING about who's the guilty party in this instance. And this incident comes on the back of the Kenneth Hansen dispute. As the old saying goes "there's never smoke without fire" - and whilst I fully expect Cov supporters to perhaps say otherwise, it's apparent that the Coventry Promotion (and in that I include Mr Gary Havelock) clearly have a major problem with how they deal effectively with some riders. To my mind, Lewis Bridger had that financial support pulled for a reason - because it's a simple solution for removing him from the team. And I may be cynical, but I cannot imagine that reason being for any other purpose than replacing him with someone else already lined up - particularly this close to the commencement of the 2015 Season. slightly off topic i know but i couldn't let it pass - the crowds then were probably 4 or 5 times what they are now and yet riders are spending MORE on equipment now and also are often expecting to be full time racers with the attendant salaries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) It appears, and Mr. Horton hasn't denied this, that the Coventry Speedway Promotion agreed (possibly via a verbal 'gentleman's agreement') to help Lewis out financially. If that is the case, then it appears that they have rescinded upon that agreement. Coventry Speedway haven't denied what? That they won't give him a loan. Nobody, Coventry Speedway or Lewis Bridger have even suggested that a loan was agreed to. What Lewis has said is that he asked for one and was told no. Seems fair to me. "Quick update on my career status I will not be racing in 2015. I needed a small loan from Coventry to buy me some second hand engines." - nothing in that says Coventry agreed to a loan and then changed their mind. Edited February 26, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Oh right - so the Coventry Speedway Promotion are that blasé/unprofessional in their approach to building their squad, that they signed a rider without any bikes; nor without the capital to invest in any? A sheer masterstroke. As for him not being offered assistance, I suggest that you read your local paper: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/speedway/coventry-bees-looking-another-rider-8708671 And this still doesn't answer the point that if financial assistance WASN'T actually offered, why doesn't Mr. Horton categorically state this within his response? Maybe you think silence is a form of defence. I certainly don't. Edited February 26, 2015 by The Voice Of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Oh right - so the Coventry Speedway Promotion are that blasé/unprofessional in their approach to building their squad, that they signed a rider without any bikes; nor without the capital to invest in any? A sheer masterstroke. As for him not being offered assistance, I suggest that you read your local paper: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/speedway/coventry-bees-looking-another-rider-8708671 And this still doesn't answer the point that if financial assistance WASN'T actually offered, why doesn't Mr. Horton categorically state this within his response? Maybe you think silence is a form of defence. I certainly don't. I'm not sure what that article adds. Lewis says he asked the club for a loan, he says the club were "unable to do so". Nothing about they agreed and changed their mind, if that was the case don't you think he'd have said so? He asked for a loan and didn't get it. Most speedway clubs probably make the quite fair assumption that a speedway rider agreeing to a deal with the club actually has bikes or the means to buy some bikes for the start of the season. Mr Horton has NOT stated anything in his response about loans. Mick Horton can screw up without anyone twisting things to make him look bad. He puts his foot in his mouth all the time and is a pretty terrible promoter but I don't see how he's in the wrong on this one. Edited February 26, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I am no supporter of Mick Horton but I think he is absolutely right in not getting into a public slagging match with Lewis. It is unbecoming for any business to wash their dirty linen in public, especially on Twitter. We have all seen how distasteful it is when the disgrace that is Neil Middleditch start sounding off in public and making a fool of himself. Horton is right in not getting into a he-said, we-said type of argument. Even if he dais publicly lewis was wrong those on the outside wouldn't know who was telling the truth. Only two people know what really happened. The one thing we do know is that money burns a hole in Lewis' pocket and he has shocking history of getting into debt. Nothing more to see here I think. Edited February 26, 2015 by E I Addio 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) SCB I think we'll have to agree to disagree as we clearly have different views on this issue. Suffice to say, I really don't think it's a simply a matter, as you suggest, of Lewis Bridger asking for a loan and the Coventry Promotion saying 'No'. I think it's more a case of, as previously mentioned, Lewis Bridger being offered support to obtain equipment (new, purchased, hired or borrowed) and now that offer isn't forthcoming. This obviously puts Lewis Bridger into an untenable position, given his current financial situation. Whatever the case, and we'll probably never learn the full facts, you surely cannot overlook the sheer incompetence of your promotion signing him in the first place; without the necessary equipment to compete. Edited February 26, 2015 by The Voice Of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 MAYBE Lewis 'liked' Kenneth's Facebook comment about his alledged unpaid race suit invoice - the result being Lewis' services were no longer required? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 MAYBE Lewis 'liked' Kenneth's Facebook comment about his alledged unpaid race suit invoice - the result being Lewis' services were no longer required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 SCB I think we'll have to agree to disagree as we clearly have different views on this issue. Suffice to say, I really don't think it's a simply a matter, as you suggest, of Lewis Bridger asking for a loan and the Coventry Promotion saying 'No'. I think it's more a case of, as previously mentioned, Lewis Bridger being offered support to obtain equipment (new, purchased, hired or borrowed) and now that offer isn't forthcoming. This obviously puts Lewis Bridger into an untenable position, given his current financial situation. Whatever the case, and we'll probably never learn the full facts, you surely cannot overlook the sheer incompetence of your promotion signing him in the first place; without the necessary equipment to compete. Where does it say anywhere that a loan was agreed other than by Lewis. I agree with SCB here i hink Lewis has asked been told no and then thrown his toys out the pram. I really dont understand the fuss i mean this is Lewis Bridger were talking about not some world beater. Will never amount to anything within the top level of this sport and is at best a poor EL heat leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theknow 2 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 The sooner Horton follows Bridger out the sport the better. Both wouldn't be missed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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