steve19620 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Compost's comments make some interesting reading. Regarding the compilation of the season files from 1965, yes the heat results rely heavily on the Speedway Star but they are only as accurate as the published results. I try to resolve any individual match queries by the BSF or trying to obtain a completed match programme. I have checked points scorers over the season and they should equal the "Complete History of the British League" averages/Speedway Star track reviews. (Particularly from Season 1966 when Bryan Seery prepared them - for season 1965 I don't know who prepared the Speedway Star end of season averages for this season so I can't vouch for completely accurancy. These were also completed before the publication of Peter Oakes' book in the early 90's). The problem lies in fourth place finishers and exclusions, where it is more difficult to verify. Exclusions are a "minefield" where a tapes exclusion counts as a ride and a two minute exclusion does not !!. Just let to you know even "official" averages can cause problems, in completing the 1965 season file I found a query in the Swindon scorers in the KOC match v Glasgow where I keep getting conflicting information so I don't know what's right. As advised in my files, if anybody finds any errors (I'm sure there is a lot) I am quite happy to amend these. You just have to e-mail me with "corrections". Anyway, I will keep plugging away with the complete 1976 season results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Compost's comments make some interesting reading. Regarding the compilation of the season files from 1965, yes the heat results rely heavily on the Speedway Star but they are only as accurate as the published results. I try to resolve any individual match queries by the BSF or trying to obtain a completed match programme. I have checked points scorers over the season and they should equal the "Complete History of the British League" averages/Speedway Star track reviews. (Particularly from Season 1966 when Bryan Seery prepared them - for season 1965 I don't know who prepared the Speedway Star end of season averages for this season so I can't vouch for completely accurancy. These were also completed before the publication of Peter Oakes' book in the early 90's). The problem lies in fourth place finishers and exclusions, where it is more difficult to verify. Exclusions are a "minefield" where a tapes exclusion counts as a ride and a two minute exclusion does not !!. Just let to you know even "official" averages can cause problems, in completing the 1965 season file I found a query in the Swindon scorers in the KOC match v Glasgow where I keep getting conflicting information so I don't know what's right. As advised in my files, if anybody finds any errors (I'm sure there is a lot) I am quite happy to amend these. You just have to e-mail me with "corrections". Anyway, I will keep plugging away with the complete 1976 season results. Steve/ Compost,you both have done great jobs with the records i just hope Compost did not take it as a slur on him by me starting the thread.As i have said yourself, Compost, Dave Allan1 have helped me alot with my personnel collection without it i would of been knackered.Keep on going with the great work as i no doubt will have a query or to in the future as 1976 is a year i have been researching for my memorabilia collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I have checked points scorers over the season and they should equal the "Complete History of the British League" averages/Speedway Star track reviews. (Particularly from Season 1966 when Bryan Seery prepared them - for season 1965 I don't know who prepared the Speedway Star end of season averages for this season so I can't vouch for completely accurancy. These were also completed before the publication of Peter Oakes' book in the early 90's). Don't forget, "The Complete History of the British League" is not 100% accurate either! There are a couple of odd seasons missing (Wimbledon 1974 is one), and they have at least one wrong average (it was either Boocock or McKinlay they have as dropping (I think) only three points in the season - 65 or 66). Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Don't forget, "The Complete History of the British League" is not 100% accurate either! There are a couple of odd seasons missing (Wimbledon 1974 is one), and they have at least one wrong average (it was either Boocock or McKinlay they have as dropping (I think) only three points in the season - 65 or 66). Steve it is boocock they have averaging over 11.9. Had been meaning to query whether this was accurate, and what tge average should be.also, can anyone shed any light on a billy burton recorded as scoring 14 from 5 rides in his only meeting for birmingham in, I think, 1982? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Thanks Dave very much, a 4.93 or 5.31 average is quite a difference but Bamford will do for me . 5.31 is the correct one !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 it is boocock they have averaging over 11.9. Had been meaning to query whether this was accurate, and what tge average should be. also, can anyone shed any light on a billy burton recorded as scoring 14 from 5 rides in his only meeting for birmingham in, I think, 1982? The year was 1981 and Burton was guesting at reserve, scorcard here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jtd6utfdw8gny3k/19811022ShefvBirmBL.pdf?dl=0 He rode for Sheffield in 77/78 so knew his way round Owlerton and 1981 was pretty much his best ever season in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Don't forget, "The Complete History of the British League" is not 100% accurate either! There are a couple of odd seasons missing (Wimbledon 1974 is one), and they have at least one wrong average (it was either Boocock or McKinlay they have as dropping (I think) only three points in the season - 65 or 66). Steve Don't know if you know but Peter Oakes included half a page worth of corrections in the 1993 yearbook. These included the 'correct' average for Nigel Boocock plus the missing team averages for Wimbledon '74 and Wolverhampton '78. If you haven't got the yearbook and want the corrections PM me and I'll scan it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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