The White Knight Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Because they are doing it wrong. They use the same material for the entire track instead of using layers of 2-3 different type of material. Perhaps they are taking a short cut by not using at least a second layer below the only material that they use now. Perhaps Temporary Tracks should be abandoned altogether - for the sake of Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Perhaps Temporary Tracks should be abandoned altogether - for the sake of Speedway. For the sake of speedway we should persevere IMO but they must get it right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Richard Child (Greg's Team manager): "the most stupid part is that it is easy to build a track". And he would know that how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Have I missed a GP or something?. All this talk of crap tracks. The last GP I saw was the Warsaw one where the track was fine. There was a problem with the lights causing the riders to walk out but nothing else. So where has been this GP with the cocked up track then, it certainly wasn't Warsaw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 From the way the track started to break up they must have sorsed the 79 lorry loads of shale from the bottom of someones gardenr a few bob on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 From the way the track started to break up they must have sorsed the 79 lorry loads of shale from the bottom of someones gardenr a few bob on the side. I think people are now starting to believe this cobblers. The track didn't break up, they may have felt it was on the verge of doing so but thats a different argument. Just watch the meeting again, the track was riding just fine save for the odd rut, nothing untoward at all 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 And if it was the starting gate, could they not have sourced a replacement within 24 hours and run the meeting on the Sunday evening. Give time to do more track work as well. Above everything though, the track and the starting gate should have not been a problem at all. That means only the ref to sort out.! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrycuda Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Post removed Edited June 6, 2015 by Barrycuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 And he would know that how? Why don't you ask him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 If, as many on here suspect, there was nothing essentially wrong with the track, it seems unlikely that Ole Olsen is going to accept any blame for the meeting being called off and being made a scapegoat. Never thought of him as someone to take things lying down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I think people are now starting to believe this cobblers. The track didn't break up, they may have felt it was on the verge of doing so but thats a different argument. Just watch the meeting again, the track was riding just fine save for the odd rut, nothing untoward at all There is the problem. It's well to be seen you weren't riding that Track. Perhaps if you had been, you might have a different view to the one you are currently expounding on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) If, as many on here suspect, there was nothing essentially wrong with the track, it seems unlikely that Ole Olsen is going to accept any blame for the meeting being called off and being made a scapegoat. Never thought of him as someone to take things lying down! As time goes on it is becoming clear that no-one was to blame,especially not BSi nor the riders and certainly not the ref or the FIM.Well actually the way this is going I think we will end up with a statement in the Speedway Star blaming the fans.......for making so much noise!!!! Edited May 6, 2015 by iris123 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 There is the problem. It's well to be seen you weren't riding that Track. Perhaps if you had been, you might have a different view to the one you are currently expounding on here. the ruts were not a problem, surely you have seen meetings run on far far worse tracks then that even some under water. The fact remains if the starting tapes hadn't failed the meeting would have continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 the ruts were not a problem, surely you have seen meetings run on far far worse tracks then that even some under water. The fact remains if the starting tapes hadn't failed the meeting would have continued That, at present, is only an opinion. None of us actually know that for a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Why don't you ask him? I suspect Richard has as much idea about building a speedway track as do I ... which is sod all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I suspect Richard has as much idea about building a speedway track as do I ... which is sod all. So if you don't know anything about track building, how can you be so sure that Richard doesn't know anything about track building? So question still stands, why don't you ask him? Dunno but I wouldn't be too surprised if Richard knows more about track building then Ole Dole Olsen does. On the other hand, that is hardly a merit, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 So if you don't know anything about track building, how can you be so sure that Richard doesn't know anything about track building? So question still stands, why don't you ask him? Dunno but I wouldn't be too surprised if Richard knows more about track building then Ole Dole Olsen does. On the other hand, that is hardly a merit, is it? RICHARD is never slow to voice an opinion, as he did in Warsaw, but to suggest that he knows more about track building than Ole Olsen must rank as one of the most ridiculous statements of all time. Anyone would think that every track Ole has built has been rubbish which isn't the case. He has certainly got far more right than he has wrong and I have said until I am blue in the face that it isn't as simple as some on here seem to think. Tommy Rander is another who thinks he has all the answers except he hasn't. The material used in Warsaw was the same as in Copenhagen, Cardiff and Stockholm which have produced some good tracks in the past. One of the unique problems for temporary tracks is that generally they are at their best for practice, during which they take a pounding equal to a whole meeting. That obviously wasn't initially the case in Warsaw but there is no doubt that had there not been a full practice on Saturday morning conditions would have been better later in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Warsaw was speedway's 'never event'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) One of the unique problems for temporary tracks is that generally they are at their best for practice, during which they take a pounding equal to a whole meeting. That obviously wasn't initially the case in Warsaw but there is no doubt that had there not been a full practice on Saturday morning conditions would have been better later in the day. . Whilst that sounds, superficially, a sensible and plausible excuse. It just does not seem to tally with my recollection of past events. My memory was that just about ALL the worst temporary tracks on Saturday nights. Had also been deemed horrendous at practice. When was it other? . Edited May 6, 2015 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Because they are doing it wrong. They use the same material for the entire track instead of using layers of 2-3 different type of material. So you know this, or are you just quoting Tommy Rander? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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