Warsaw Gp Saturday 18th April

[pugwash]

Bit Ironic that Olsen was giving Gollob a golden helmet!

Yes, he's been been shafting us all for years.

[Fromafar]

You can bet there will be no fines or suspensions for walking out though.

[5 FURROW]

NOT a minor view at all, this gentelman paid his hard earned cash to watch the GP & was obviously being patriotic

So did I pay hard cash but I'm there for the racing not whether I'm gonna get my poxy flag in if your gonna criticise at least criticise about the main thing the lack of racing when lets face It that's what I was there for not flag waving if that's what they want over racing I suggest they join the majorette club

[TheReturn]

Last night was a shambles and the people who suffered were the fans. The fans who paid to travel to Poland, the fans from Poland who paid lots of money to attend and even the fans at home who sat through it. We can see it, we can see temp tracks are a farce, why can't others? Pearson (perhaps protecting his free speedway travel) tried to defend it too with this tweet 'Keep believing, keep being ambitious. Recover from setbacks, @SpeedwayGP deserves to be in world class venues. Time to move on. Goodnight.'.

 

It's ok to move on if you have not paid hundreds of quid to attend I suppose.

So did I pay hard cash but I'm there for the racing not whether I'm gonna get my poxy flag in if your gonna criticise at least criticise about the main thing the lack of racing when lets face It that's what I was there for not flag waving if that's what they want over racing I suggest they join the majorette club

If true, then it is very much equally as important issue. To tell other fans they can not fly their national flag, but allow other national flags is in fact outrageous. Imagine next time England play Poland in a European match, there would be a riot if the Polish stadium authorities tried to ban the Union Jack. It's a flag people have fought and died for, In fact in 1939 men from this country went to war with Germany because of the fact they invaded Poland. So don't call it a 'poxy flag' you ****.

[nw42]

So did I pay hard cash but I'm there for the racing not whether I'm gonna get my poxy flag in if your gonna criticise at least criticise about the main thing the lack of racing when lets face It that's what I was there for not flag waving if that's what they want over racing I suggest they join the majorette club

 

and breathe....

[fullbore]

it really is hard to see how it can survive in it's present form.

How manyfirst rate permanent venues are there in the world with a capacity of >15,000? 4 or 5 max.

 

Niamh

Edited April 19, 2015 by Niamh

[speedy17]

This must be the biggest coffin in history with the amount of nails going in it...

 

I'm in Warsaw and still struggling to get over what happened last night, a complete disaster. The tapes fiasco is the most amateurish thing i have ever seen in a speedway meeting, it was clear the elastic was at fault and with no spare whoever declared that starting gate good to go should be shafted.

 

Then you come to the track, there was a noticeable rut on the first bend which was the problem in practice, so how the track staff couldn't get the track to be top notch is also an embarrassment.

 

The riders, albeit not all of them, should also be looking at themselves in the mirror, that track was nowhere near the standard of Cardiff from previous years where there was ruts everywhere. The green light start other than when Doyle jumped actually worked even if it did look alien. The riders walked all over the likes of Morris etc calling rider meetings to eventually chuck the towell in should never have been allowed. Pedersen and Hancock and a couple of others never wanted to ride as soon as they were losing points through the track, well sorry but that's not on, the riders who wanted to ride should have carried on and it would have showed who was willing and who weren't, the racing was actually getting decent right before the call off.

 

And to save a complete riot from happening they sent Gollob out to calm the crowd down and do some sort of heroes send off. LOL.

 

Wish I hadn't bothered with it all, won't be going abroad to a GP in a very very long time.

[tellboy]

So did I pay hard cash but I'm there for the racing not whether I'm gonna get my poxy flag in if your gonna criticise at least criticise about the main thing the lack of racing when lets face It that's what I was there for not flag waving if that's what they want over racing I suggest they join the majorette club

Whats wrong with showing you are patriotic.So what its not the main issue but its still an issue.Will you be telling all the Poles that descend on Cardiff to join a majorette club.

That's a problem with this country at the moment some of our own people don't want us to show that we are patriotic,but will let others do as they please.

Ps sorry I didn't criticise on the main thing

[Chris Brown]

We cannot go back to major speedway events being held in a field (Norden), or well loved but ramshackle stadia (Odsal).

 

We have to get the temporary tracks sorted.

The size of crowds generally at the mega stadia proves what can be achieved.

The tracks is the one and only issue.

 

Not sure I agree with this to be honest. The Speedway World Championship is about speedway primarily and I am being old fashioned in thinking that to run a speedway meeting you need to have a speedway track, If the stadium that track happens to be in can wine and dine the sponsors and looks pretty on TV then great but for me the track surface comes first

 

Yes you can argue the TV likes to show speedway in plush stadiums but that didn't work last night did it and TV stations will surely at some point run out of patience. At that BSI (or whatever they call themselves) will walk away from speedway with its reputation in tatters and people who care about speedway left to pick up the pieces

 

If the tracks can be sorted then I am all for decent venues but the speedway track HAS to come first. This is the Speedway World Championship not a bloody circus

I have seen claims that 12 heats were required for results to stand and that also means no ticket refunds.

 

So I don't think it's too unrealistic to think that the rider's meeting was just a hoax meaning

that it was decided already from the beginning to call it off after 12 heats so that the results

will be valid and so that they don't would have to pay out ticket refunds.

 

So the organisers do not lose on the night. Its brilliant isn't it

 

Good job they managed to get that 12th heat in

Edited April 19, 2015 by Chris Brown

[Red Panda]

The main question I think is why when it was realised that the track was not safe to ride on Friday did they not change the venue..................it was not raceable and it was basically an accident waiting to happen with so many ruts and holes in it............

 

I don't blame the riders at all for not wanting to continue.............

 

I was reading one Polish article and it described it as an embarrassment to Polish Speedway...............I think its an embarrassment to the sport full stop............

 

RP

[Brian]

There have been meetings before when the track rutted badly, Cardiff comes to mind as one example where the riders continued.

What has changed now, is that it seems riders are prepared to stop the show when they don't like it.

All I can see from this is that to avoid any future occurrences, tracks will be laid as hard and slick as the road outside.

 

On a tongue in cheek note, I couldn't help but think about those on this site who spout that line about riders racing for the fans entertainment. 😉

Edited April 19, 2015 by Brian

[Woz01]

There is obviously a demand there to have the GP'S in big arenas the problem is the temporary tracks. They need more time to settle, putting it down the week of the gp isn't long enough is it? I don't think Poland needs to have it in Warsaw though with Torun and Gorzow having excellent stadiums. In the UK is different as no speedway stadium is equipped to hold the event.

[Bagpuss]

So did I pay hard cash but I'm there for the racing not whether I'm gonna get my poxy flag in if your gonna criticise at least criticise about the main thing the lack of racing when lets face It that's what I was there for not flag waving if that's what they want over racing I suggest they join the majorette club

I'd politely suggest that you remove that chip from your shoulder and learn some manners before posting.

Edited April 19, 2015 by Gordon Bennett

[brandonmole]

Thought you were having a laugh - and then started looking at the sites of normally 'Twitter happy' riders.

 

Not a bad word to be said against the 'establishment'

 

"hush" money ?

 

Prima Donna's all 18 of them in my book. So sad !

[Fromafar]

Not sure I agree with this to be honest. The Speedway World Championship is about speedway primarily and I am being old fashioned in thinking that to run a speedway meeting you need to have a speedway track, If the stadium that track happens to be in can wine and dine the sponsors and looks pretty on TV then great but for me the track surface comes first

 

Yes you can argue the TV likes to show speedway in plush stadiums but that didn't work last night did it and TV stations will surely at some point run out of patience. At that BSI (or whatever they call themselves) will walk away from speedway with its reputation in tatters and people who care about speedway left to pick up the pieces

 

If the tracks can be sorted then I am all for decent venues but the speedway track HAS to come first. This is the Speedway World Championship not a bloody circus

 

 

So the organisers do not lose on the night. Its brilliant isn't it

 

Good job they managed to get that 12th heat in

I agree speedway should come first.It is just a circus now.The ref was a joke regarding the tapes incidents,what he must think this morning when he looks back!!!!!!! there was not a lot wrong with the green light starts,don't see what all the fuss regarding that was about regarding that issue that is in the rules in event of this happening.The riders were not caring about the paying public shame on them.I have seen them ride on far worst tracks when there is a thought that they will lose some earnings.

[5 FURROW]

I'd politely suggest that you remove that chip fun your shoulder and learn some manners before posting.

The only chip I've on my shoulder is the lack of a meeting seems some people were there for other things which if what they are moaning about floats there boat game on and as for manners what have I said that isn't the truth

[waiheke1]

Haven't read all the comments but my two cents:

1 what a fuvking farce

2 thanks goodness Bydgoszcz is out and warsaw in!

[TheReturn]

The only chip I've on my shoulder is the lack of a meeting seems some people were there for other things which if what they are moaning about floats there boat game on and as for manners what have I said that isn't the truth

Clearly you only have the capacity to focus on one thing, for most other people we can focus on more than one thing at a time, like watching and enjoying racing whilst showing our support for favourite riders, be that a Union jack or a favourite rider flag.

[5 FURROW]

I'd politely suggest that you remove that chip fun your shoulder and learn some manners before posting.

I take you were it attendance last night or are you one of many with opinions about everything sat in your armchair

[Gavan]

The main question I think is why when it was realised that the track was not safe to ride on Friday did they not change the venue..................it was not raceable and it was basically an accident waiting to happen with so many ruts and holes in it............

 

I don't blame the riders at all for not wanting to continue.............

 

I was reading one Polish article and it described it as an embarrassment to Polish Speedway...............I think its an embarrassment to the sport full stop............

 

RP

The track had a few ruts, no more and no less than places like Cardiff, yet we all bang on how Cardiff is the 'jewel in the gp crown' when in reality the track isnt good.

 

This track wasnt good yet some were prepared to give it a go Harris, Zagar, MJJ for example.

 

I fully understand Holder being apprehensive as he had a bad crash last year, but then again he cant expect every track he rides to be as smoth as a billiard table.

Pedersen had a knee brace on so he may have found it hard but thats just tough luck.

 

Sorry but yes the track wasnt great but the prima donnas who were struggling (Hancock , Pedersen and Holder ) were moaning and the organisers bowed down to it.

 

The fact is the track wasnt good and i agree with gp's not being on temporary tracks.

The start gate was only an issue because at this level you would expect a back up plan. However the green light starts did stop the usual suspects rolling so again perhaps they didnt like that.

 

People who were new to speedway probably enjoyed the fact the track was difficult, to then find out the riders didnt want to ride.

 

Sorry but the riders who didnt want to ride have a lot to answer for.