liam Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 You are missing my point,do you think he will get more money racing in Sweden,what price loyalty?I would do whatever makes me most money like 99% of people. Put your toys back in your pram 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 He didn't even want a shared number 1 position after asking the promoters for the schedule to be reduced. That's a big smack in the face for British Speedway. Why would he ride in Sweden for Vetlanda on a Tuesday and fly to the UK when he now has a house in Vetlanda ? He will still travel to the UK often enough, why couldn't he take up a shared number 1 position? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Maybe Lindgren didn't want to share the number 1 position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) Riders are self employed so it's his choice where he works. I am disappointed he's chosen not to support British speedway by riding for a team here, especially given the schedule changes but from his message it seems he cannot cope with as many meetings as other riders. On the positive side, it opens a place up for another rider and as a supporter of speedway in this country I like to see committment from the riders and if they aren't, there's the door! Wonder if he'll be interested in all the practice opportunities avaliable in the UK early in the season or to help out a team near the end on a short-term basis, if it suits? Edited November 26, 2014 by SPEEDY69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Riders are self employed so it's his choice where he works. I am disappointed he's chosen not to support British speedway by riding for a team here, especially given the schedule changes but from his message it seems he cannot cope with as many meetings as other riders. On the positive side, it opens a place up for another rider and as a supporter of speedway in this country I like to see committment from the riders and if they aren't, there's the door! Wonder if he'll be interested in all the practice opportunities avaliable in the UK early in the season or to help out a team near the end on a short-term basis, if it suits? Perhaps he will - if the money's right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 WOLVERHAMPTON WOLVES 2016 7.32 Piotr Pawlicki 7.03 Tai Woffinden Àdd Lindgren and Thorssell and the next title for Mr Adams is sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Riders are self employed so it's his choice where he works. I am disappointed he's chosen not to support British speedway by riding for a team here, especially given the schedule changes but from his message it seems he cannot cope with as many meetings as other riders. On the positive side, it opens a place up for another rider and as a supporter of speedway in this country I like to see committment from the riders and if they aren't, there's the door! Wonder if he'll be interested in all the practice opportunities avaliable in the UK early in the season or to help out a team near the end on a short-term basis, if it suits? He will ride for someone in the playoffs if he is out of the World Championship hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I don't think he would have rode in the EL last season if he had not won the world title, I feel he felt obligated and if he had retained it I think he would have thought hes done his bit and quit so he wouldn't have ridden in the UK next season whatever. His world title never really felt a 100% British triumph though, as Scott Nicholls said an English world champion with an Australian flag tattooed on his back. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Job share offer was for a number one position and that was never going to happen as he wasn't going to be number one with a 7.03 average and Lindgren is only interested in a full fixture list. Bridger Pedersen Woffinden How many more before tapes up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 While agreeing with this to a degree the British system is what has allowed him to develop in his early career to the rider he is today He rode in both the Conference and Premier Leagues in the UK, not in Poland or Sweden or Australia, they had nothing to offer him and at that time he was happy to make the most of (I will refrain from the term 'use') the British system which allowed him to ride in 2 leagues when these other countries offered him nothing So now those other leagues are seemingly a better bet then its bye bye to the British speedway system which has helped him to develop to where he is today While partially understanding it, its very disappointing and he has a short memory as to who gave him the chance. As for coming back, who cares, British Speedway now owes him nothing But lets not kid ourselves he is burned out because of British Speedway, he is burned out because he has chosen to ride in Poland and Sweden which is where the travelling is involved If at some point he chooses to come back because the grass is not greener, lets hope British Speedway does not make it easy for him Just my view Well said IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 The bloke is going to go where the money is of course. He'd be a fool not to. If Joe Public gets offered the same job he already does but on a better wage of course he'll take it. Or if he has to cut back on one of many commitments he's obviously going to drop the least lucrative one. It has been known for years that the top riders have seen Britain as third/fourth choice in terms of being a league to race in. What did they want? Less meetings and a set race night. The fans agree this too, we want to see the best riders in the world in our top league. It's not too hard to implement this and yet again an AGM has come and gone and it hasn't happened. Don't blame Tai or the other top riders not racing here, blame the people at the top who won't bite the bullet and commit to bringing the Elite League into line with the other top speedway leagues in the world. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) He's best mates with Hancock isn't he so a bad influence when it comes to racing here? But Greg Hancock is not a so-called Brit who has quite the league of his 'homeland' whereas on the face of it Tai Woffinden has done just that. I don't think he would have rode in the EL last season if he had not won the world title, I feel he felt obligated and if he had retained it I think he would have thought hes done his bit and quit so he wouldn't have ridden in the UK next season whatever. His world title never really felt a 100% British triumph though, as Scott Nicholls said an English world champion with an Australian flag tattooed on his back. That perhaps says it all? I like that comment. Here's a further SGB update on the Woffinden situation: http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.27839 Edited November 26, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Peter Adams comments seem to suggest that the 'shared teamplace' is not restricted to just the Number 1, so presumably means any of the 1-5? Confirmation would be great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tai's announcement is no surprise - its not as if he's made a secret out of it in previous interviews - but the decision to turn down half the fixtures in a 'job-share' (and maximise his earnings) is just a little more mystifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Peter Adams comments seem to suggest that the 'shared teamplace' is not restricted to just the Number 1, so presumably means any of the 1-5? Confirmation would be great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tai's announcement is no surprise - its not as if he's made a secret out of it in previous interviews - but the decision to turn down half the fixtures in a 'job-share' (and maximise his earnings) is just a little more mystifying. Thats how i read the situation regards "shared teamplace" Perhaps ifs thats the case,Wolves might even be able to tempt back Pawlicki to share along with someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Thats how i read the situation regards "shared teamplace" Perhaps ifs thats the case,Wolves might even be able to tempt back Pawlicki to share along with someone else. Yes, unless he's already been 'tempted' by someone else?! I guess it might depend on how much leeway there is between the averages of the 2 shared riders/places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theflyingkiwi Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Why are some people still floating the Aussie issue. The guy has promoted Speedway in this country brillantly over the last year which has had a detrimental impact on his results on the track. Speedway in this country is pi*s poor and is nowhere near the standard that it used to be. Can you really blame Tai for chosing an option that he thinks will be able to better his chances for winning another World Championship? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Why are some people still floating the Aussie issue. The guy has promoted Speedway in this country brillantly over the last year which has had a detrimental impact on his results on the track. Speedway in this country is pi*s poor and is nowhere near the standard that it used to be. Can you really blame Tai for chosing an option that he thinks will be able to better his chances for winning another World Championship? Fair dinkum comment Digger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 He can do what he wants never keen on the bloke so I won't miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 If he stays away all season and comes back in 2016 after having a great season say, with A Polish ave of say 10.00, Sweden 10.50, would he still be on his last UK ave of 7.03 or whatever it is.... Or will it get assesed up?? Just a thought.... So long as EVERY rider that has missed a season out of the EL gets re-assessed then that would be fair. I would expect Freddie to get a new average for this season that reflects his Polish/Swedish form for 2014. Is that fair? Why are some people still floating the Aussie issue. The guy has promoted Speedway in this country brillantly over the last year which has had a detrimental impact on his results on the track. Speedway in this country is pi*s poor and is nowhere near the standard that it used to be. Can you really blame Tai for chosing an option that he thinks will be able to better his chances for winning another World Championship? Well said. People drop the Oz thing when suited. He can do what he wants never keen on the bloke so I won't miss him. Likewise Ward. The EL is bigger than him if he gets the year ban he deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 So long as EVERY rider that has missed a season out of the EL gets re-assessed then that would be fair. I would expect Freddie to get a new average for this season that reflects his Polish/Swedish form for 2014. Is that fair? Well said. People drop the Oz thing when suited. Likewise Ward. The EL is bigger than him if he gets the year ban he deserves. What is it with you trolling my posts and always bringing up Ward this is not a Ward topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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