Guest Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) You must be short of sumthing ta do Gustix Not another who has joined "the gang" who like to troll me on the BSF? What is your actual gripe ffs? What in you "esteemed" opinion am I doing wrong? I really would appreciate your expertise in the correct way to place messages and comments! Edited December 8, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Are you on commission from the Kings for more visits to the site ? haha You must be short of sumthing ta do Gustix I agree with both comments. I do visit the Kent Kings discussion too often and obviously upset people. So - I promise both of you - this is what is known as "a fond farewell" to the thread by me. Have fun! Edited December 9, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I agree with both comments. I do visit the Kent Kings discussion too often and obviously upset people. So - I promise both of you - this is what is known as "a fond farewell" to the thread by me. Have fun! I do believe Gustix, that you are more or less housebound, so therefore people on here should be cutting you a little more slack than the average poster, so come on guys lighten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I agree with both comments. I do visit the Kent Kings discussion too often and obviously upset people. So - I promise both of you - this is what is known as "a fond farewell" to the thread by me. Have fun! My comment was nothing more than light hearted fun - that's why it ended - HAHA. Blimey stop being so serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Because you're wrong. Aveages are calculated form 4 rides, there are 7 riders in a team. You only need about 42 to win, can be done with 40.2. But thats not what it's about,it's about equality, it's no good if 5 teams build to your 45 point figure but the other 5 teams in the league only have teams adding up to 30 is it? Where are the riders going to come from for your 45 point limit? Well thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know the nominated 15th heat wasn't used in the averages, would explain why it's not 45 points In that case though, I would certainly have a 42 point limit max with a possible 38 point minimum, I certainly wasn't looking for some teams to build to only 30, it wasn't good last year watching teams like Buxton and Scunthorpe I'm sure some Cradley riders who finished on 55+ will be looking for new teams as they can't all ride again for the same team Coventry, Cradley .Kent. Kings Lynn and Mildenhall will all have to lose riders as they can't fit in to the averages, hopefully these riders will get picked up by weaker teams making it more equal all round I guess by about 5pm tonight we will know a lot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Well thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know the nominated 15th heat wasn't used in the averages, would explain why it's not 45 points In that case though, I would certainly have a 42 point limit max with a possible 38 point minimum, I certainly wasn't looking for some teams to build to only 30, it wasn't good last year watching teams like Buxton and Scunthorpe I'm sure some Cradley riders who finished on 55+ will be looking for new teams as they can't all ride again for the same team Coventry, Cradley .Kent. Kings Lynn and Mildenhall will all have to lose riders as they can't fit in to the averages, hopefully these riders will get picked up by weaker teams making it more equal all round I guess by about 5pm tonight we will know a lot more Hear 15 does count towards averages, however an average is worked out over what a rider should be scoring over 4 rides. It is points scored divided by rides taken times four. So if a rider scores 10 from four rides his average is 10. If he then races in heat 15 and finishes last that average drops to eight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hear 15 does count towards averages, however an average is worked out over what a rider should be scoring over 4 rides. It is points scored divided by rides taken times four. So if a rider scores 10 from four rides his average is 10. If he then races in heat 15 and finishes last that average drops to eight. Thanks for clearing that up. i'll get there soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 So then RocketBen1, if a heat leader does ht 15 and therefore takes 5 rides, does that mean he gets an average of 12? 15/5 = 3, 3 * 4 = 12! This then does not apply where only 4 rides have been taken as the cumulative points scored divided by four would give a cumulative average over the month for the revised green sheets. Points scored / number of meetings thus 68 points over 10 meetings = 6.8 av. Or 52 points over 8 meetings = 6.5 av. Or have I missed something maths is not my strong point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 It's points / ride * 4, not points / meeting, from all rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 It's points / ride * 4, not points / meeting, from all rides. Thanks. Sounds fair enough, too many formulas being delivered. Cannot find it in the regs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 With 9.75 points left for 3 riders - Could Kent Kings be looking at; Adam Kirby.(back) Danno Verge. Luke Harris.(back) Ellis Perks. Any more likely ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think everybody will be tripping over to get the signature of Ellis Perks although with him being signed in the P/L I suspect there will be a lot of date clashes? Of the others Kirby 3.68, Verge 3.57 & Harris 3.17 would still be too many. Verge has potential & would make sense to go in at 2 with two rookies at reserve. Im not sure I could handle another year of Calamity Kirby again....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think everybody will be tripping over to get the signature of Ellis Perks although with him being signed in the P/L I suspect there will be a lot of date clashes? Of the others Kirby 3.68, Verge 3.57 & Harris 3.17 would still be too many. Verge has potential & would make sense to go in at 2 with two rookies at reserve. Im not sure I could handle another year of Calamity Kirby again....... No I would not be keen on Kirby returning. But I can see Verge-Perks comes from Gravesend (I think)so would make sense and Harris was unlucky to lose place and all 3 would fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Harris and Perks would be awesome with moggo too if his average is low enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 No I would not be keen on Kirby returning. But I can see Verge-Perks comes from Gravesend (I think)so would make sense and Harris was unlucky to lose place and all 3 would fit. Can't argue with either statements. I assume Perks will be staying with the Verge's again? Anybody know who will be acting as mechanic & driver this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Aron Mogridge & Danno Verge have artifical averages really because of their involvement with the very poor Scunthorpe side of last year. An indication (if they were to miss out as a result with teams needing three pointers) on how that Stags experiment did them little in the way of favours.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTB Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Luke Harris has signed for Cradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Says on Website the Kings were hoping for 38 points limit. The way the team was being built no great surprise. 38 points would have left - 5.75 and two 3 pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 It appears that David will no longer be a rider with the Kings, he would still be a major asset around the pits though. Luke Harris never really liked the Central Park track so him not returning was no surprise to me. Perks, Moggeridge and Verge if their averages summed to fit would be a starting line-up to get the team up and running. The number 8 selection intrigues me though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 It appears that David will no longer be a rider with the Kings, he would still be a major asset around the pits though. Luke Harris never really liked the Central Park track so him not returning was no surprise to me. Perks, Moggeridge and Verge if their averages summed to fit would be a starting line-up to get the team up and running. The number 8 selection intrigues me though! For me, that's the main problem with the points limit, they are forcing riders out, in an ideal world, riders would come into the national league on a 3 point average, work there way up until they were picked up by a premier league club and move on It's not happening, rider averages will only go up with such a small limit, and then they are unable to ride as they can't be fit into sides David may or may not wish to ride for kent, but the option is not there for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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