Sings4Speedway Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Still think it stinks how the others are being treated. Mullins, Sheppard & Couzins were going to race off for the 6,7,& 8 positions. Mullins drops out, the other two get the places & Kent search for a new 8? Seems logical but no instead there are others added to the mix, hardly a confidence booster for either rider. I don't think its likely that Sanderson would be travelling down to Kent every Monday night for just a number 8 berth.....I suspect he will want 6 or 7 or not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Id rather see sanderson in than someone who has only mucked about on the grasstracks. There seem to be several riders that have got places this year without any proven speedway merit and IMO is a poke in the eye to all those who have been serving their apprenticeships in the MDL...... "Muck about on the grasstracks" ? Have you ever been to a Grasstrack meeting ? I can assure you they do not "Muck about" and I always thought it was a good practise for a future Speedway rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Still think it stinks how the others are being treated. Mullins, Sheppard & Couzins were going to race off for the 6,7,& 8 positions. Mullins drops out, the other two get the places & Kent search for a new 8? Seems logical but no instead there are others added to the mix, hardly a confidence booster for either rider. I don't think its likely that Sanderson would be travelling down to Kent every Monday night for just a number 8 berth.....I suspect he will want 6 or 7 or not at all. As a number 8 you wouldn't need to be at every meeting. You'd only be there if you was replacing someone in the 1 to 7 or are officially declared as the number 8 for that meeting when a team is using R/R, which is why teams often don't do the latter as riders don't want to turn up when they're unlikely to race and teams don't want to pay more expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I thought Mullins was confirmed and the other two were going to go head to head/be assessed for the number 7 spot with the other being named as number 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Still think it stinks how the others are being treated. Mullins, Sheppard & Couzins were going to race off for the 6,7,& 8 positions. Mullins drops out, the other two get the places & Kent search for a new 8? Seems logical but no instead there are others added to the mix, hardly a confidence booster for either rider. I don't think its likely that Sanderson would be travelling down to Kent every Monday night for just a number 8 berth.....I suspect he will want 6 or 7 or not at all. Your wrong there, Mullins was confirmed 6. Sheppard and couzins were going to do battle over the number 7 jacket. Both riders are very raw so it would be a poor reserve Line Up naming both. Hopefully we get Sanderson at 6 and Couzins at 7 as he looked to have better raw pace in his second half appearances last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Your wrong there, Mullins was confirmed 6. Sheppard and couzins were going to do battle over the number 7 jacket. Both riders are very raw so it would be a poor reserve Line Up naming both. Hopefully we get Sanderson at 6 and Couzins at 7 as he looked to have better raw pace in his second half appearances last season. Yes Teaboy279, I also thought that Couzens had more get up and go than Sheppard. Sheppard has had more track time but does not appear to have what it takes other than to be anything other than a reserve. Just my view and may he prove me wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 "Muck about on the grasstracks" ? Have you ever been to a Grasstrack meeting ? I can assure you they do not "Muck about" and I always thought it was a good practise for a future Speedway rider. I can assure you I have been to plenty of grasstracks and know there is a lot of talent there. However of the talented young riders with speedway potential I wouldn't include Matt Saul in that bracket. I agree its good practise for future speedway riders but still maintain that these riders should then progress into the MDL, learn the tracks & set ups, then be granted team places. However this is just my opinion obviously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I can assure you I have been to plenty of grasstracks and know there is a lot of talent there. However of the talented young riders with speedway potential I wouldn't include Matt Saul in that bracket. I agree its good practise for future speedway riders but still maintain that these riders should then progress into the MDL, learn the tracks & set ups, then be granted team places. However this is just my opinion obviously. I have not seen Matt Saul so you maybe right. And I think Sanderson will get the nod. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) I know nothing about Sanderson but others who have seen him ,think he may be the best bet,,But i saw enough of Cousins and Shepherd last season to suggest that Cousins is by far the better of the two..If it boils down to a race off i hope it goes well for him..(no garrantee that Shepherd will even make it to the tapes in time) Edited March 5, 2015 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Always remember Alf Hagon, brilliant on the grass yet only really made reserve status on shale. Not all riders are able to do both, Malcolm Simmons was one who could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Sanderson has the racing mentality and raw pace to do well in the future (he's only 16 I think) but his biggest problem last year was making it to the first bend not in last position, and that sometimes led him to trying too hard and coming off. Having said that I didn't see him after he 'left' the Stags mid season until I saw him in the MDL in October and he was much improved going into he first bend. He's certainly a rider with potential, I just think last year was a little difficult for him being thrown into the deep end and once he learns to gate (which is obviously important) he'll become very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Sanderson has the racing mentality and raw pace to do well in the future (he's only 16 I think) but his biggest problem last year was making it to the first bend not in last position, and that sometimes led him to trying too hard and coming off. Having said that I didn't see him after he 'left' the Stags mid season until I saw him in the MDL in October and he was much improved going into he first bend. He's certainly a rider with potential, I just think last year was a little difficult for him being thrown into the deep end and once he learns to gate (which is obviously important) he'll become very good. As much as it makes me harp on about the MDL again it sounds like Sanderson is a prime candidate for more time at that level before moving up? I don't see it beneficial for any rider to be thrown in before they are ready and subsequently dropped repeatedly at a young age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 As much as it makes me harp on about the MDL again it sounds like Sanderson is a prime candidate for more time at that level before moving up? I don't see it beneficial for any rider to be thrown in before they are ready and subsequently dropped repeatedly at a young age. 12 months ago, definitely. He needed the MDL before he went in to the NL imo and that didn't happen. But now he's had a year under his belt, he might struggle with a new track to begin with, but combine that with riding MDL and I saw enough talent in him to know he won't do too badly this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Liam Sanderson would hold his own at reserve in the nl I watched him every meeting he rode in last year lots of raw talent that just needs to be set in the right direction and with a few reserves that are only just moving up to nl this year from MDL/NJL he would be a good choice good equipment also which helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 The Speedway Star review of the Stags season last year in this weeks edition shows that Liam Sanderson rode ten matches with a final average of 1.22. Bearing in mind that the weak nature of their side actually had the effect of inflkating some averages Arron Mogridge at 4.79 for example, the 1.22 from ten is pretty disappointing 19 rides away from home and just a solitary point is another alarming stat. It could be he improves massively but his first season in the NL has to be regarded surely as a huge disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 The Speedway Star review of the Stags season last year in this weeks edition shows that Liam Sanderson rode ten matches with a final average of 1.22. Bearing in mind that the weak nature of their side actually had the effect of inflkating some averages Arron Mogridge at 4.79 for example, the 1.22 from ten is pretty disappointing 19 rides away from home and just a solitary point is another alarming stat. It could be he improves massively but his first season in the NL has to be regarded surely as a huge disappointment. And people wonder why youngsters drop out of the sport, doubt if there's anything as good as a slagging off on a forum to boost your confidence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 The Speedway Star review of the Stags season last year in this weeks edition shows that Liam Sanderson rode ten matches with a final average of 1.22. Bearing in mind that the weak nature of their side actually had the effect of inflkating some averages Arron Mogridge at 4.79 for example, the 1.22 from ten is pretty disappointing19 rides away from home and just a solitary point is another alarming stat.It could be he improves massively but his first season in the NL has to be regarded surely as a huge disappointment. If he had stayed on he would have scored a lot more points he tries too hard it' was difficult for most of the scunny lads last year with no one able to guide/help them at all and all but a few in there first year of nl racing and seeing tracks for the first time most of them had only ridden scunny and there local track doing second halfs and being in a team that will be competitive also helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Always remember Alf Hagon, brilliant on the grass yet only really made reserve status on shale. Not all riders are able to do both, Malcolm Simmons was one who could. That's not how I see Alf Hagon's speedway career! http://www.speedwayatoz.co.uk/alfhagon.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Not a wheel has turned & people are already bemoaning about young british riders. Get behind them, they will over ride,fall off or do something daft but without our support they will not improve. just sit back and see the progress they make. You may be surprised. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Always remember Alf Hagon, brilliant on the grass yet only really made reserve status on shale. Not all riders are able to do both, Malcolm Simmons was one who could. I'll raise you Simon Wigg, Steve Schofield, Simon Cross, Jem Doncaster, Mark Loram, Kelvin Tatum and Joe Screen, all Britsh grasstrack champions as well as GB speedway internationals. Edited March 6, 2015 by Sotonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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