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I understand that a rider with many years BEL experience has been told that he cannot drop down to the BPL because his average is higher than 6.00. Is this correct. If so will this then prevent at least 6 other riders from continuing to double up next season.

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I understand that a rider with many years BEL experience has been told that he cannot drop down to the BPL because his average is higher than 6.00. Is this correct. If so will this then prevent at least 6 other riders from continuing to double up next season.

Simple solution, do a Sean Wilson/Joe Screen. Have a few bad meetings, drop average to below 6 and bobs your fathers brother. Rorys average is 6.22, only takes 2 terrible meetings scoring 1 or 2 and he'd get a nice, newer, low enough average.

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Simple solution, do a Sean Wilson/Joe Screen. Have a few bad meetings, drop average to below 6 and bobs your fathers brother. Rorys average is 6.22, only takes 2 terrible meetings scoring 1 or 2 and he'd get a nice, newer, low enough average.

Certainly worked for King last year, and shouldn't be too difficult for Watt or Schlein either.

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Simple solution, do a Sean Wilson/Joe Screen. Have a few bad meetings, drop average to below 6 and bobs your fathers brother. Rorys average is 6.22, only takes 2 terrible meetings scoring 1 or 2 and he'd get a nice, newer, low enough average.

Are you suggesting 'fiddling' again, I would have thought there was enough 'fiddling' going on in Speedway as it is with all the stupid legal Rules that apply.

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Are you suggesting 'fiddling' again, I would have thought there was enough 'fiddling' going on in Speedway as it is with all the stupid legal Rules that apply.

My point is that this goes on.So putting arbitary figure in place is stupid. Do you really think Danny King was struggling badly and then magically found form the day after he signed for Newcastle by chance last season?

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My point is that this goes on.So putting arbitary figure in place is stupid. Do you really think Danny King was struggling badly and then magically found form the day after he signed for Newcastle by chance last season?

Possibly not, but starting to get paid again might have had something to do with it!!!!

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Perhaps all the foreign stars will come back to the elite league when they start to age and form deteriorates to a level that rules them out of Polish, Swedish leagues, back to the good old EL and then double down......... Let's have a sneak preview of a PL team in 2020

 

Shlein

Hampel

Bachelor

N Pedersen

C Holder

Harris

Nicholls

 

Great!!

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My point is that this goes on.So putting arbitary figure in place is stupid. Do you really think Danny King was struggling badly and then magically found form the day after he signed for Newcastle by chance last season?

 

Of course it goes on, it has been known for big hitters in the PL (and am sure in the EL too) to look at lowering a little in order to facilitate guest appearances later in the year- we all know it happens, whether we like it or not.

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Or put all the teams into one division in a split Northern/Southern League so that riders can only race for one team!

North and South wouldn't work well as most EL tracks are in the Southern region and riders of EL experience will be stronger

 

 

Riders will be watching their averages and not so much have a few bad meetings but more likely follow team mates to score 4+3 rather than 6+1

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It should be made plain and simple no one who rides in the EL should be allowed to drop to the PL unless they are past their best and will no longer be riding in the EL.

The PL should be for young riders from the NL to go up to get more experiance. I know EL riders have to earn a living but if that is the case then they should look for rides abroad to allow them to earn the extra cash and ride in leagues of simular standing to the EL.

There are to many EL riders from overseas plus British riders taking places in the PL that should be given to young lads from the NL who wish to better their careers.

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It should be made plain and simple no one who rides in the EL should be allowed to drop to the PL unless they are past their best and will no longer be riding in the EL.

The PL should be for young riders from the NL to go up to get more experiance. I know EL riders have to earn a living but if that is the case then they should look for rides abroad to allow them to earn the extra cash and ride in leagues of simular standing to the EL.

There are to many EL riders from overseas plus British riders taking places in the PL that should be given to young lads from the NL who wish to better their careers.

Is it wrong to drop down though, some do it some don't ever...... Name 7 EL Brits and 7 non Brits that have done this in the last 7 years................? Drop down to PL I mean...... Edited by Shale Searcher
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Is it wrong to drop down though, some do it some don't ever...... Name 7 EL Brits and 7 non Brits that have done this in the last 7 years................? Drop down to PL I mean......

Barker, Kennett, King, Screen, Allen, Howe and Robbo have all dropped down and doubled up at some point. As have Vissing, Doyle, Ostergaard, Lindgren, Lemon, Wells and Bach.

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Barker, Kennett, King, Screen, Allen, Howe and Robbo have all dropped down and doubled up at some point. As have Vissing, Doyle, Ostergaard, Lindgren, Lemon, Wells and Bach.

Really? Dropped down, don't you mean never really made it into the EL proper? Surely , you cannot count Some of those, they signed for EL teams, then got loaned out in their early years... Or dropped down at the hind end of there careers, only to he lured back to the EL in reserve or 2nd string.... Not in their prime, using the PL as easy money cash cows.....

I meant to add, the likes of Screen and co did sterling work in the EL league, and then dropped down when they could no longer cut it as heat leaders or get lucrative overseas deals...... I personally don't mind seeing the Mature, riders in the PL, they can pass immense experience and advice to the younger lads in that league...

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Really? Dropped down, don't you mean never really made it into the EL proper? Surely , you cannot count Some of those, they signed for EL teams, then got loaned out in their early years... Or dropped down at the hind end of there careers, only to he lured back to the EL in reserve or 2nd string.... Not in their prime, using the PL as easy money cash cows.....

I meant to add, the likes of Screen and co did sterling work in the EL league, and then dropped down when they could no longer cut it as heat leaders or get lucrative overseas deals...... I personally don't mind seeing the Mature, riders in the PL, they can pass immense experience and advice to the younger lads in that league...

Every single one of them riders listed had at least 1 full season of full time EL racing before deciding to double up. Barker maybe should be excluded and he was prevented form doubling up in 2009 as his PL average was over 8 (8.04) and he then doubled up at the earlier opportunity. But Kennett, King, Screen, Allen, Howe and Robbo all had probably 4 or 5 season of EL at least before dropping down. All hit an EL average of at least 6.5 too so we hardly bit part players. Of the foreignors, one of two of them are a little more dubious, but still, they ride EL full time before moving (back) to the PL and then doubling up.

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Really? Dropped down, don't you mean never really made it into the EL proper? Surely , you cannot count Some of those, they signed for EL teams, then got loaned out in their early years... Or dropped down at the hind end of there careers, only to he lured back to the EL in reserve or 2nd string.... Not in their prime, using the PL as easy money cash cows.....

I meant to add, the likes of Screen and co did sterling work in the EL league, and then dropped down when they could no longer cut it as heat leaders or get lucrative overseas deals...... I personally don't mind seeing the Mature, riders in the PL, they can pass immense experience and advice to the younger lads in that league...

This was proved by Stuart Robson at Newcastle during his Seasons there. :approve: :approve: :approve:

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