Brummies_Ste Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Birmingham Speedway @BrumSpeedway · 18s18 seconds ago We are delighted to announce that Tom Perry has agreed a deal to become our third signing for 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Perry/Ellis will no doubt be the top pair in the NL. Brum look to be the ones to beat - at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 If Brum get Perks too they will win the League by winning every match... Which was NOT the intention of the rule changes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 If Brum get Perks too they will win the League by winning every match... Which was NOT the intention of the rule changes.. Sorry to correct you but Cradley have Ellis on board. Announced yesterday! Mind, a pretty good top two if, and I did say if, the correct Tom turns up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 If Brum get Perks too they will win the League by winning every match... Which was NOT the intention of the rule changes.. Perks has gone to Cradley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Oh okay - thanks. That's a relief.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Oh okay - thanks. That's a relief.. Hardly a relief. Cradley look like they're going to walk the league instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Can someone remind me. Was it Tom Perry that got a guest appearance for the Brummies, away at Stoke, back in 2008? Probably in the same meeting that Mattia Carpanese threw his hands up in surrender? If so, welcome back to where you started Tom. Hardly a relief. Cradley look like they're going to walk the league instead. Again??? Now that would be a shock won't it? The team that bought us cheque book speedway in the 1970's still winning everything at all costs. Plus ca change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Adam's Lakeside average in 2014 was 5.10 (home) and 5.24 (away). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 birmingham look like the team to beat cant see any team being able to match there top 2 and they have the best 3 pointer that any team will have, cradley at the moment are a long way short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 birmingham look like the team to beat cant see any team being able to match there top 2 and they have the best 3 pointer that any team will have, cradley at the moment are a long way short Good to know. The thing is, that I for one (and I doubt if I'm on my own), without having slaved through books and books of statistics haven't have come across many of the names in the NL (some fast trackers aside) so a helping hand on who are the good who are the bad and who are the ugly is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Brum have the Top rider in the League in Adam Ellis, they arguably have the best Pair of riders, in Adam and Tom Perry, Zach Whatsisname wont be far short of being the best 3 pointer, IMO Ellis Perks is the best 3 pointer. Cradleys No1 and its pretty obvious now who its going to be, will be amongst the better No1s, but Morley, Ellis, Halsey, Sarjeant all have more experience than our No1, as for our Top Pairing, again Brum just shade it, i cant comment on other Teams pairs as i dont know who they are. In response to uk martins words of Cheque book Speedway, please tell me how poor little Cradley could compete with Coventry, Birmingham, Belle Vue, it wasnt only through the Cheque book. Brum are the 2nd city in the Uk, and let me tell YOU, its not for want of trying that Brum have NOT got Ellis Perks, they allegedly tried there damndest. If Brums best would get off there fat arses and support there Speedway Team, you should be able to walk this little NL league with all the advantages a second city has, and allegedly its NOT just Cradley trying to win at all costs. But good luck Brum i have nothing against you, but for people to point the finger before a wheels been turned, when its a case of if you cant beat em join em. Oh let me remind you Bruce Penhall signed as an unknown, Eric Gundersen was a reserve when he signed, Jan o Pedersen another who started at the bottom, Bobby Shwartz unknown, Lance King another unknown, Greg Hancock unknown and Billy Hamill unknown, from recollection the two big money signings were Phil Collins and the late Simon Wigg. Maybe your promotion in those days should have been a bit wiser as to what was happening across the Atlantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 The thing is its a team sport 2/3 riders don't make a whole team looking at teams already all riders could put a few points on their average and a well balanced team throughout could cause a few upsets going to be a good contest and prizes are not given out at the start of the season many things can happen in a season can't wait for it to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Brum have the Top rider in the League in Adam Ellis, they arguably have the best Pair of riders, in Adam and Tom Perry, Zach Whatsisname wont be far short of being the best 3 pointer, IMO Ellis Perks is the best 3 pointer. Cradleys No1 and its pretty obvious now who its going to be, will be amongst the better No1s, but Morley, Ellis, Halsey, Sarjeant all have more experience than our No1, as for our Top Pairing, again Brum just shade it, i cant comment on other Teams pairs as i dont know who they are. In response to uk martins words of Cheque book Speedway, please tell me how poor little Cradley could compete with Coventry, Birmingham, Belle Vue, it wasnt only through the Cheque book. Brum are the 2nd city in the Uk, and let me tell YOU, its not for want of trying that Brum have NOT got Ellis Perks, they allegedly tried there damndest. If Brums best would get off there fat arses and support there Speedway Team, you should be able to walk this little NL league with all the advantages a second city has, and allegedly its NOT just Cradley trying to win at all costs. But good luck Brum i have nothing against you, but for people to point the finger before a wheels been turned, when its a case of if you cant beat em join em. Oh let me remind you Bruce Penhall signed as an unknown, Eric Gundersen was a reserve when he signed, Jan o Pedersen another who started at the bottom, Bobby Shwartz unknown, Lance King another unknown, Greg Hancock unknown and Billy Hamill unknown, from recollection the two big money signings were Phil Collins and the late Simon Wigg. Maybe your promotion in those days should have been a bit wiser as to what was happening across the Atlantic. Come on Greyhoundp, put the past to bed and let a calm future prevail to the best of both clubs. WITHOUT Brum we would not have Cradley. WITHOUT Cradley we not have Brum in 2015. Dan the Man did the Cinderella to Gods act with Cradley but could not do it with Brum! That should show something in my opinion. Once A Heathen Always A Heathen as the programme says..............Once A Brummie Always A Brummie as well if you are from the wrong end of the West Midlands! I bay a Brummie, I'm from the Black Country!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, that will upset a few!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Bruce Penhall signed as an unknown, Bobby Schwartz unknown Oh, come on, everyone who knows their speedway history knows that those two were far from unknown when Cradley signed them in 1978 & 1979 respectively, in fact they were both targets for Wolves in early 1977. But seeing as you are a commited Heathen, I can understand your reluctance to acknowledge that fact. Good luck Brum Thank you, kind sir. Best of luck to Cradley too. The horizon is looking very bright for both clubs next season. Edited December 16, 2014 by Leicester Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hardly a relief. Cradley look like they're going to walk the league instead.I would say Birmingham look significantly stronger on riders named so far... Good to know. The thing is, that I for one (and I doubt if I'm on my own), without having slaved through books and books of statistics haven't have come across many of the names in the NL (some fast trackers aside) so a helping hand on who are the good who are the bad and who are the ugly is appreciated.The NL is covered extensively in the Speedway Star and all results on the Updates . Plus the BSPA site. Not exactly difficult to find out about the division and its riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Watered down product with good riders sitting on the side lines because of the drop in the points limit. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Welcome to Perry Barr Tom Pretty pleased with this signing, in Ellis and Perry we have a strong top two. I think it's great to see, it's not something we ever said when we're Elite League. We didn't even have a recognised number 1 in that league last year.What a difference 12 months make,dreaded last season as I thought we were in the Elite to just make up the numbers. Now I'm really looking forward to March as it's been a good start to team building. Was hoping we would get Perks but Wajtknecht has an impressive record already at such a young age. I'm sure he can impress in his first season in the national league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Can someone remind me. Was it Tom Perry that got a guest appearance for the Brummies, away at Stoke, back in 2008? Probably in the same meeting that Mattia Carpanese threw his hands up in surrender? If so, welcome back to where you started Tom. I can't answer that but Tom did make his speedway debut at Perry Barr for the Heathens vs the USA. Quite possibly one of my favourite meetings ever - seeing fully grown men excited that there team was returning, and then seeing two fully committed teams going at it like lives depended on it - was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Can someone remind me. Was it Tom Perry that got a guest appearance for the Brummies, away at Stoke, back in 2008? Probably in the same meeting that Mattia Carpanese threw his hands up in surrender? If so, welcome back to where you started Tom. . He didn't race speedway until 2010Good luck Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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