21st century heathen Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm hoping for a healthy rivalry with the Brummies but let's not get silly over this. The Heathens didn't even win anything until '79 so the comment earlier about cheque book speedway in the 70's is a daft one. And B'ham have made by far the better start to team building plans. As previous post - Perry debuted for Heathens in 2010 as a 16 years old. I remember someone saying he'd ridden speedway previously but he didn't compete in a team line-up until 2010. I can't verify that he rode at 15 though. Perry is a cracking signing to back up the rider who should top the league next season and easily the best complete newcomer to the league. Don't forget it was only a couple of years ago that Perry averaged over 10 and was 2nd only to Roynon at the end of the season. He had a blip with injury and illness in 2013 but bounced back to average over 9 with BPs last season. He only failed to score a point in 7 league races in 2014 and 3 of those were retirements!! If the old Dickie Sweets line is working at Perry Barr next season Perry should be flying and once again become one of the league's elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) He didn't race speedway until 2010 Good luck Tom. Maybe old age is playing tricks with me. I've found this record of Tom Perry appearing for the Brummies at Stoke...but I could have sworn it was earlier than this when he first rode... still, no matter. http://www.speedwayresults.com/result.php?type=273&season=2010 Edited December 16, 2014 by uk martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I can't answer that but Tom did make his speedway debut at Perry Barr for the Heathens vs the USA. Quite possibly one of my favourite meetings ever - seeing fully grown men excited that there team was returning, and then seeing two fully committed teams going at it like lives depended on it - was brilliant. You're right, it was a definite highlight of the modern Perry Barr era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 idont think you b,ham fans should be too upset at not getting perks zach is a much better prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordoftheShale Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 idont think you b,ham fans should be too upset at not getting perks zach is a much better prospect Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 He didn't race speedway until 2010 Good luck Tom. 16th. November 2008 at Iwade: Dragons Club class championshiip: 1st. Benjamin Borgers (Netherlands) 14; 2nd. Mark Baldock 13; 3rd. TOM PERRY 11; 4th. Richard Andrews 11; 5th. Niall Strudwick 11; 6th. Mark Bibby 10; 7th. Wim Kennis (Belgium) 9; 8th. Ian Olsen 8; 9th. Jim Wannell 8; 10th. Sjors De Jonge (Netherlands) 8; 11th. Jamie Dixon 6; 12th.= Lee Lingham 3; 12th.= Steve Cook 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 16th. November 2008 at Iwade: Good to see Iwade still going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I remember someone saying he'd ridden speedway previously but he didn't compete in a team line-up until 2010. I can't verify that he rode at 15 though. 16th. November 2008 at Iwade: Dragons Club class championshiip: 1st. Benjamin Borgers (Netherlands) 14; 2nd. Mark Baldock 13; 3rd. TOM PERRY 11; 4th. Richard Andrews 11; 5th. Niall Strudwick 11; 6th. Mark Bibby 10; 7th. Wim Kennis (Belgium) 9; 8th. Ian Olsen 8; 9th. Jim Wannell 8; 10th. Sjors De Jonge (Netherlands) 8; 11th. Jamie Dixon 6; 12th.= Lee Lingham 3; 12th.= Steve Cook 3 Ahh may well have been you who previously mentioned this meeting. I'm pretty sure it was a one-off and I know 2010 was his first season in a NL level team. ------------------------- And yes, that meeting vs USA was a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 16th. November 2008 at Iwade:Dragons Club class championshiip: 1st. Benjamin Borgers (Netherlands) 14; 2nd. Mark Baldock 13; 3rd. TOM PERRY 11; 4th. Richard Andrews 11; 5th. Niall Strudwick 11; 6th. Mark Bibby 10; 7th. Wim Kennis (Belgium) 9; 8th. Ian Olsen 8; 9th. Jim Wannell 8; 10th. Sjors De Jonge (Netherlands) 8; 11th. Jamie Dixon 6; 12th.= Lee Lingham 3; 12th.= Steve Cook 3Okay. I see your 2008 and raise you 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 On the subject of Tom and particularly for those not very familiar with him, or indeed NL racing in general, take a look at the clip to see what could be on the cards for you 2015 speedway fix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34RaK9xe-9E Incidentally this was the night of Heeps' Monmore Green debut - this was the only point he dropped from 7 rides!! And this shows what Tom's capable of - if he just finds the consistency of 2012 again you've got a hell of a top two on your hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulhy09hxs9U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) On the subject of Tom and particularly for those not very familiar with him, or indeed NL racing in general, take a look at the clip to see what could be on the cards for you 2015 speedway fix. Incidentally this was the night of Heeps' Monmore Green debut - this was the only point he dropped from 7 rides!! And this shows what Tom's capable of - if he just finds the consistency of 2012 again you've got a hell of a top two on your hands. http://youtu.be/wQNAgUzjz4Q Edited December 17, 2014 by martin_t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeoBrummie Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 A great race indeed - spolt by the prat with the microphone! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Don't get the love for the Birmingham team after 3 signings. Dangerous to build so top heavy, because as good as they will be in 13 and 15, there are a lot of other races in a meeting! They need to have 3 or 4 fantastic signings to fill in the rest of the team to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Bearing in mind that with what's left to spend in the averages, the next signings will be 4, 5 or 6 point riders (or thereabouts) so how "fantastic" they will be will remain to be seen. If, who I've been given a "heads-up" for as our next signing, gets announced officially though, I think that the current "love" will be maintained for a while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hardly a relief. Cradley look like they're going to walk the league instead. I would say Birmingham look significantly stronger on riders named so far... Cradley look stronger because they have the tricky bottom end sorted and with good riders to boot. To say they are going to walk the league is going a bit far imo though. Neale has experience at the bottom end for Cradley, while Perks is the best 3 pointer anyone could have signed. Luke Harris has bags of potential and won't be over awed starting as a second string. Greaves will develop into a real NL heatleader too. Looking at the Brummies so far there is no doubt that Perry and Ellis will be one of the best heatleader duos out there. They will have a long tail though and it may be hard for them to fill the bottom end to the same standard that Cradley have. It seems to me at this stage though that there may well be a tussle between the two Perry Barr clubs for the league title in 2015. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Harvie Banks is 4th signing Apparently he's a talented motorcyclist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 He's also the son of ex Hackney rider Trevor Banks and made an appearance for Devon last year. Welcome to Perry Barr Harvie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Harvie is a good moto x rider and has done some training over here . I know his dad very well and he's a good kid. He could turn out to be a surprise signing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Dont know much about Harvie Banks except he has a good pedigree, from what I gather on the jungle drums, Brum have there 7 all sorted, what might prove to be an issue is Adams average, it seems Brum advisor Phil Morris seems to think his average is his lower NL average of 8.90, whereas other NL Team managers suggest it is his higher 9.34 average, now if Brum have sorted there 7 riders, it will be interesting what average they have used. So it seems there pre season has been similar to last year in so far as that they will have Team manager who hasnt signed the riders, unless Mr D comes on board, that is if he isnt already. Edited December 18, 2014 by greyhoundp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Welcome and good luck to Mr Banks Jr. It will be interesting to see how he and Ellis Perks at Cradley get on this year. Being the son of a former rider can be a good thing but as Liam Rumsey at Mildenhall has shown, it's no guarantee to greatness. Let's keep fingers crossed though that these riders adapt to the sport and make life interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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