Tsunami Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm not sure, to be honest, I wonder if access is via the pits before they are closed off? It would seem to be more sensible BEddi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think it should be a flat £20 across the board (kids and concession excepted). You stirring the pot or what ? or maybe smoking it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 You stirring the pot or what ? or maybe smoking it ?Andersons sausage and uncle montys snuff has him floating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) One thing is for sure, lower pricing doesn't seem to be an influential variable, certainly at Berwick. So I say stick the price up, hoy in a burger, a can of pop, and enjoy the racing. I can see another advantage, it would probably get rid of the whining "supporters". I'd happily subsidise the loss of them through increased entrance fees. Now, that would improve the product no end. One thing is for sure, lower pricing doesn't seem to be an influential variable, certainly at Berwick. So I say stick the price up, hoy in a burger, a can of pop, and enjoy the racing. I can see another advantage, it would probably get rid of the whining "supporters". I'd happily subsidise the loss of them through increased entrance fees. Now, that would improve the product no end. I see that you have secured that consultancy post for the NHS, (salary co sponsored by McDonalds & Andersons Burgers) Think you would have to pay about £7000, to get rid of the ''Whining Supporters'' Edited November 15, 2014 by TOURETTES 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I see that you have secured that consultancy post for the NHS, (salary co sponsored by McDonalds & Andersons Burgers) Think you would have to pay about £7000, to get rid of the ''Whining Supporters'' Cool, that works out at £18 per head for the real world people then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 after reading the press release from berwick looking for sponsership yhey claim to be the lowest priced track for the prem league just out of interest just how much do each club charge as workington is my local ill start off adult admission at workington £14 when we had the double headers it was £23 i think and you get free race card for that price be interesting to see if there is much difference I usually park on the road outside the stadium. At £14 for parking, programme and entry Workington is one of the cheapest of them all (and that includes NL tracks). Giving that the racing is usually pretty decent, its definitely one of the best value places to watch speedway anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardis Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I think it is Shadders? Certainly the 3rd bend is. I see biged is off in his make belive world again the 3rd bend IS NOT wheelchair accessible you have steps to get up also you cant get from the pits elf and safety would not allow it, also if the person in the wheelchair needed the toilet the disabled one is on the 1st bend. There is a wheelchair area on the 1st bend put up bt BRFC supporters club for the football and it gives quite good views of the action in fact there are few regs that use it all the time. Now we move onto price you say £20 for adults so it would be £40 for a couple with maybe food and a drink and a prog on top of that it would come up to £60 I'm sorry you just don't live in the real world. So sir untill you can get your facts right may I sugest you refain from posting drivel on here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) I see biged is off in his make belive world again the 3rd bend IS NOT wheelchair accessible you have steps to get up also you cant get from the pits elf and safety would not allow it, also if the person in the wheelchair needed the toilet the disabled one is on the 1st bend. There is a wheelchair area on the 1st bend put up bt BRFC supporters club for the football and it gives quite good views of the action in fact there are few regs that use it all the time. Now we move onto price you say £20 for adults so it would be £40 for a couple with maybe food and a drink and a prog on top of that it would come up to £60 I'm sorry you just don't live in the real world. So sir untill you can get your facts right may I sugest you refain from posting drivel on here If this particular poster is intent on paying £20 each Saturday night, then he should do so, he doesn't need to post such boasts on here, once again, like his I know more than you posts the other day it appears attention seeking is the order of the day, though to be fair it is no more than to be expected, sadly. Edited November 15, 2014 by screm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I see biged is off in his make belive world again the 3rd bend IS NOT wheelchair accessible you have steps to get up also you cant get from the pits elf and safety would not allow it, also if the person in the wheelchair needed the toilet the disabled one is on the 1st bend. There is a wheelchair area on the 1st bend put up bt BRFC supporters club for the football and it gives quite good views of the action in fact there are few regs that use it all the time. Now we move onto price you say £20 for adults so it would be £40 for a couple with maybe food and a drink and a prog on top of that it would come up to £60 I'm sorry you just don't live in the real world. So sir untill you can get your facts right may I sugest you refain from posting drivel on here In defence of Big Ed, his £20 scheme would include food & drink. Still barmy though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 british speedway over the piece is totally overpriced? Who is too blame Are we too picky? Riders holding the clubs to ransom Either way I think we pay over the going rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITISHSPEEDPOWER Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 british speedway over the piece is totally overpriced? Who is too blame Are we too picky? Riders holding the clubs to ransom Either way I think we pay over the going rate Engine tuners are to blame i reckon, Even premier league reserves paying big money to stay competitive. With costs spiriling out of control it has to have a knock on effect with admission price. The only logical antidote is standardisation of equipment, superstock speedway. Another thing, my cousin rode mid 80s-early 90s premier league second string/third heat leader, He reckons back then most riders held down full time jobs, with only the very best guys riding speedway full time!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Joking aside I thought when Mickey Dyer announced his retirement after going from a 3 to 8 point average plus guest bookings still saying he was losing money! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I see biged is off in his make belive world again the 3rd bend IS NOT wheelchair accessible you have steps to get up also you cant get from the pits elf and safety would not allow it, also if the person in the wheelchair needed the toilet the disabled one is on the 1st bend. There is a wheelchair area on the 1st bend put up bt BRFC supporters club for the football and it gives quite good views of the action in fact there are few regs that use it all the time. Now we move onto price you say £20 for adults so it would be £40 for a couple with maybe food and a drink and a prog on top of that it would come up to £60 I'm sorry you just don't live in the real world. So sir untill you can get your facts right may I sugest you refain from posting drivel on here I stand corrected. I did point out that it was based purely on the fact that there have been spectators in wheelchairs there in the past. Back to topic, £20 entry is really what we need to be looking at, especially on here. With a bit of thought, it can clearly be seen that it has a number of benefits. I can't quite see how being prepared to pay £20 is boastful, or attention seeking, it is unlikely that Screm will elaborate on that comment, though. He is only attention seeking, after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I stand corrected. I did point out that it was based purely on the fact that there have been spectators in wheelchairs there in the past. Back to topic, £20 entry is really what we need to be looking at, especially on here. With a bit of thought, it can clearly be seen that it has a number of benefits. I can't quite see how being prepared to pay £20 is boastful, or attention seeking, it is unlikely that Screm will elaborate on that comment, though. He is only attention seeking, after all Prepared to pay £20 may not be boastful or attention seeking, but it does suggest an entrance fee that will kill the sport. i am still struggling to understand what benefits it has, especially for the paying punter....£20 for 15 minutes entertainment, no-goer in my books. Charge £20 and you'll soon have empty stadiums and clubs going to the wall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I stand corrected. I did point out that it was based purely on the fact that there have been spectators in wheelchairs there in the past. Back to topic, £20 entry is really what we need to be looking at, especially on here. With a bit of thought, it can clearly be seen that it has a number of benefits. I can't quite see how being prepared to pay £20 is boastful, or attention seeking, it is unlikely that Screm will elaborate on that comment, though. He is only attention seeking, after all whats with the constant white text?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Prepared to pay £20 may not be boastful or attention seeking, but it does suggest an entrance fee that will kill the sport. i am still struggling to understand what benefits it has, especially for the paying punter....£20 for 15 minutes entertainment, no-goer in my books. Charge £20 and you'll soon have empty stadiums and clubs going to the wall That's what we have at the moment. It will either boost the sport's finances, or kill it off more quickly. Either way, better than the slow painful death at the moment? £20 isn't a lot of money for a night of entertainment. If folk really don't think it is worth that, then I truly can't understand why they go. They cannot value the sport that much. Before anyone jumps on me, let me be clear that I do not think a price hike should include concessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 That's what we have at the moment. It will either boost the sport's finances, or kill it off more quickly. Either way, better than the slow painful death at the moment? £20 isn't a lot of money for a night of entertainment. If folk really don't think it is worth that, then I truly can't understand why they go. They cannot value the sport that much. Before anyone jumps on me, let me be clear that I do not think a price hike should include concessions. £20 is a lot of money when your struggling to pay £15-£16 each week for a sport that you do value. If you can't understand that concept or why people do go to speedway then there's no mileage in this discussion. Why is the first port of call to boost the sports's finances the need to increase admission fees? Why not look at better sponsorship / television deals? Your argument smacks very much of the way my team's promoters view things...hit the supporter with the threat "if you don't pay up you'll lose the sport" - emotional blackmail in other words. Speedway supporters are fair minded and rational people but no mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 £20 is a lot of money when your struggling to pay £15-£16 each week for a sport that you do value. If you can't understand that concept or why people do go to speedway then there's no mileage in this discussion. Why is the first port of call to boost the sports's finances the need to increase admission fees? Why not look at better sponsorship / television deals? Your argument smacks very much of the way my team's promoters view things...hit the supporter with the threat "if you don't pay up you'll lose the sport" - emotional blackmail in other words. Speedway supporters are fair minded and rational people but no mugs. I agree that sponsorship and media is the preferable route. The hard fact is that revenues from both are very difficult at the moment. At this point in time it is the fans who will make or break the survival of the sport. That might mean digging a bit deeper, but it still isn't that deep at £20 surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think most clubs would fold in a season or two. 6 quid increase at Berwick I dont think gates would be anymore than 250 after 6 home matches... Its a tough one really the product isn't going to get better... More and more fans refuse to be ripped off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I agree that sponsorship and media is the preferable route. The hard fact is that revenues from both are very difficult at the moment. At this point in time it is the fans who will make or break the survival of the sport. That might mean digging a bit deeper, but it still isn't that deep at £20 surely? As the pigeon with a broken wing said ..."it's a matter of opinion". £20 may not be too deep for some but, if you were struggling to pay £15 every week to watch a sport you love, then £20 will probably make you pick and choose when you go. Also, before it's mentioned, it's not always as easy as saying "well forego something else" when something else is your rent, food or heating allowance etc. Regarding sponsorship, and I can only refer to my own club, they have had opportunities to accept tremendous sponsorship deals and offers to improve the current promoter's group but refused to do so. You can only look a gift horse in the mouth so many times before the opportunities dry up and stubbornness ends up being extremely costly and final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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