mc1874 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 The speedway season at times drags on and competitions drag on. I was thinking for the league cup would a one off meeting for the final at neutral venue say mid July be viable. Say the new Bellevue stadium. Would fans go. Kind of like football fans going to Wembley. Just a thought, but it would certainly make the competition distinct and give it a sense of occasion. It would obviously mean that the early rounds would need to be done early doors etc, listen I'm a monarchs fan and I loved this season. But broadly speaking would this change be workable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Make the final in the summer when the weather is normally good and speedway stops for the best part of a month . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The speedway season at times drags on and competitions drag on. I was thinking for the league cup would a one off meeting for the final at neutral venue say mid July be viable. Say the new Bellevue stadium. Would fans go. Kind of like football fans going to Wembley. Just a thought, but it would certainly make the competition distinct and give it a sense of occasion. It would obviously mean that the early rounds would need to be done early doors etc, listen I'm a monarchs fan and I loved this season. But broadly speaking would this change be workable. What would be any financial success be to either of the clubs in the final? Surely there wouldn't be any if it's ran on a neutral track? Who'd pay the points money/stadium rent/Refs fees/medical cover etc., etc. It might be OK for the likes of the Fours and Pairs (BSPA Events), where there a lot of teams involved, but with just 2 clubs involved it makes the League Cup idea a virtual non-starter, for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Scrap the League Cup altogether. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyre bel1 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Agree scrap it. Have one friendly to start the season to knock the cobwebs off and then straight on with the league. Have a break half way through the season to run KO cup, 4's, pairs etc and then on with the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 a no it may sound crazy, but could the League Cup not be run like the F A Cup in football ???,,, all 3 league's drawn out of a hat, 1 tie, home or away,,, it might be a money spinner for some poorer club's and might generate some interest, say like Kings Lynn away at Mildenhall,,, just a thought :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 a no it may sound crazy, but could the League Cup not be run like the F A Cup in football ???,,, all 3 league's drawn out of a hat, 1 tie, home or away,,, it might be a money spinner for some poorer club's and might generate some interest, say like Kings Lynn away at Mildenhall,,, just a thought :-) And how many would turn up to, say, Wolverhampton (EL) at home to Scunthorpe Stags (NL side)?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 And how many would turn up to, say, Wolverhampton (EL) at home to Scunthorpe Stags (NL side)??Maybe not , but the inter league cup ran in the early nineties , where the lower league team had guaranteed home advantage , was great entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Maybe not , but the inter league cup ran in the early nineties , where the lower league team had guaranteed home advantage , was great entertainment Agree with you Paul. Diamonds got Belle Vue in 1992, losing 39-51, but we had to go with R/R for Scott Norman. I think Glasgow got Reading, did they not, with Todd Wiltshire, David Mullett, Ray Morton et al? The other thing is, as to the 3 leagues all in a hat suggestion, is the arguments as to who would ride for which club, with all the doubling up/down/sideways/diagonally! It makes the whole idea a non-starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) And how many would turn up to, say, Wolverhampton (EL) at home to Scunthorpe Stags (NL side)?? dunno,,, but they could share the gate money, or pay them an average points money, (elite league riders, ride for less, and national league get more, and so on),,, if the 'superstars' don't wanna be involved for less money, tell them to get on their bike, literally,,, something's gotta change, according to some folk :-) you could call it the 'BSPA Super-cup',,, or summit,,, all the riders involved would be on equal points money, if some don't want to represent their club,,, then we will all know who not to invite back to ride for us again :-( Edited November 7, 2014 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 A CUP FOR THE LEAGUE. Start the league on 1st April, meet each other home & away twice in the season, THE TEAM WITH THE MOST POINTS, WINS THE CUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaniaman Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 scrap the cup and maybe bring back regional four team tournament and a final 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Make the league table the qualifier for the 4TT? Top of the table wins the title, top 8 teams go to the fours? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Make the league table the qualifier for the 4TT? Top of the table wins the title, top 8 teams go to the fours? Now that is a decent idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 So the fours would have to run in October? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 So the fours would have to run in October? Why not? A season long qualification would add more meaning to them, and also unlike playoffs could be done and dusted in one meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Why not? A season long qualification would add more meaning to them, and also unlike playoffs could be done and dusted in one meeting. and,,, with there usually being plenty riders out injured by October, am sure each team could scrape together 4 rider's without the use of guests :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Why not? A season long qualification would add more meaning to them, and also unlike playoffs could be done and dusted in one meeting. I prefer having an afternoon's speedway in July/August rather than in the dog days of October. Even if it rains, it's warmer rain. Speedway in October is bleak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Agree with you Paul. Diamonds got Belle Vue in 1992, losing 39-51, but we had to go with R/R for Scott Norman. I think Glasgow got Reading, did they not, with Todd Wiltshire, David Mullett, Ray Morton et al? The other thing is, as to the 3 leagues all in a hat suggestion, is the arguments as to who would ride for which club, with all the doubling up/down/sideways/diagonally! It makes the whole idea a non-starter. We were the only 2nd tier side to win in 1992 , beating Cradley 46-44 . We lost 42-48 to Ipswich in the next round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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