stevec Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 OK, whats National League Speedway like? Great News that my team, Eastbourne, are riding next year and I am well happy that they are looking to put a local young team together. My concern though is that the racing could be a bit tame with young and inexperience riders at the back with the better riders miles in front. However, Elite League speedway is sometimes far from edge of seat excitement, especially around the confines of Arlington. I have never seen national League Speedway so it would be good to hear some honest views on what we can expect at Arlo in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 One thing I don't think you can call the NL is tame, and you can look at my signature to see that I've watched a fair bit of NL round the country! It may be a couple of seconds slower, but in reality when you're stood there you don't actually realise that. The lads still put in as much effort, and I'm tempted to say more effort than the egos in the EL. That means that sometimes you'll get more fallers and more tapes exclusions but there certainly isn't a lack of passing, especially when you get some of the younger guys who can't gate (Clegg and Perry spring to mind), still winning races. As to the division between riders in races, I'd say that the league is a lot more competitive than it was a few years ago and it probably will be even more so next year, but even then when you look at the names on paper they are nearly all closer than some of the divides between the EL fast trackers and EL second strings, but in reality you get that at all levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 OK, whats National League Speedway like? Great News that my team, Eastbourne, are riding next year and I am well happy that they are looking to put a local young team together. My concern though is that the racing could be a bit tame with young and inexperience riders at the back with the better riders miles in front. However, Elite League speedway is sometimes far from edge of seat excitement, especially around the confines of Arlington. I have never seen national League Speedway so it would be good to hear some honest views on what we can expect at Arlo in 2015. It depends what you want from your Speedway really. If you want to see big or fancy foreign names then it wont be for you. It's a bit like marmite....but from the sounds of it you are looking forward to a local team so you've got the right approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 On the whole National League speedway is great and just as competitive as Elite League racing, BUT and it's a big BUT if they are provided with a diabolical track to ride on like the last two meetings at Coventry then a fair few of them will be in trouble. However, as the track preparation has more than likely been done like that on purpose at Brandon I'm sure you will be fine at Eastbourne and get to love N.L. racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 One thing I don't think you can call the NL is tame, and you can look at my signature to see that I've watched a fair bit of NL round the country! It may be a couple of seconds slower, but in reality when you're stood there you don't actually realise that. The lads still put in as much effort, and I'm tempted to say more effort than the egos in the EL. That means that sometimes you'll get more fallers and more tapes exclusions but there certainly isn't a lack of passing, especially when you get some of the younger guys who can't gate (Clegg and Perry spring to mind), still winning races. As to the division between riders in races, I'd say that the league is a lot more competitive than it was a few years ago and it probably will be even more so next year, but even then when you look at the names on paper they are nearly all closer than some of the divides between the EL fast trackers and EL second strings, but in reality you get that at all levels. Have to agree with the above! I have followed the Heathens in the NL since 2010, Club CH in the CL way back, Wolf Cubs in the CL, as well as Buxton in the CL and have been all over to UK to watch 3rd Tier Speedway. Beats PL & EL hands downall the time for me! Have fun and enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) i am constantly amazed that long-standing El/Pl club fans have never travelled to their nearest nl track to watch a meeting..If you have only watched EL meets at Arlington over the last few years then be prepared to be more entertained. You might even see some passing! Edited October 31, 2014 by Mike.Butler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) When Cradley (Dudley) returned to the track in 2010 we were all a bit sceptical of the quality of the racing, having been treated to the likes of Penhall, Gundersen. Pedersen, Hamill and Hancock. I have to say that I have thoroughly enjoyed our 5 years at NL level. I remember back to the 70s when 'junior' meetings included riders who could barely stay on on the straights let alone the bends. That's not the case in the NL. Many of the riders at that level are actually lapping quicker than the likes of Olsen, Briggs and Mauger, which is something often overlooked.We have had a great bunch of lads representing the Club and its been an absolute pleasure to see them make progress. You have only to look at the EL to see how well the likes of Craig Cook, Nick Morris, Richie Worrall, Rob Lambert, Kyle Howarth and others who have graduated in the last few years have done. Lewis Blackbird, Kyle Newman and Steve Worrall have regularly beaten Elite League second strings this year. The big problem for the NL is balancing team strengths. The likes of Cradley and Scunthorpe (2014 version) have totally different Agendas and that can produce one sided racing. What I would say is don't be an 'Elite League snob'. Give the kids a chance and I think you will be impressed. I hope it works out for all at Arlington. Edited October 31, 2014 by Ommer Mon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I loved it when the colts had a season at Belle vue.Watching the like of Jason Garrity and Kyle Howarth progress over a season is realy great to watch.Can't wait for the new stadium to be built as i believe the colts will be revived then,i hope so and i hope you enjoy it as much as me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 If the choice we NL or none,I'd take NL any day of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 If the choice we NL or none,I'd take NL any day of the week. Me too!!!, I still got faint hopes I might see a Brummies team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 OK, whats National League Speedway like? Great News that my team, Eastbourne, are riding next year and I am well happy that they are looking to put a local young team together. My concern though is that the racing could be a bit tame with young and inexperience riders at the back with the better riders miles in front. However, Elite League speedway is sometimes far from edge of seat excitement, especially around the confines of Arlington. I have never seen national League Speedway so it would be good to hear some honest views on what we can expect at Arlo in 2015. The way I see it, its no different to PL or EL. There is a disparity between the riders but no more than that in either of the other two leagues. The quality of what you see is as dependent on the state of the track as in the EL or PL, too. Best pass I have seen this season was made by an NL rider - albeit Jon Armstrong - on a track that I would rate as fair and good as virtually any other and better than most anywhere - Mildenhall. Eastbourne's best season's have mostly come in the lower tier of British Speedway. I think Arlington will suit the NL boys and with a few local lads in backed up by one or two more experienced campaigners I see no reason why they can't have a big season both on and off track. Whatever the case, its brilliant that the Eagles are still running and all credit to Uncle Bob for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Blimey, didnt expect so many replies and I am certainly feeling better about the season. As for what I want from Speedway, its entertainment and success for my team. I have followed the eagles since the early 70s (the old National League) and loved the times we had the local riders riding for us but I was/am concerned the excitement wont be there in the National League. If you guys are right, then it looks like I am in for a good season. I will go whatever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) I loved it when the colts had a season at Belle vue.Watching the like of Jason Garrity and Kyle Howarth progress over a season is realy great to watch.Can't wait for the new stadium to be built as i believe the colts will be revived then,i hope so and i hope you enjoy it as much as me.That was truly an awsome season. Hope you are right. Mort gets stuck in and all the pits and track staff are very welcoming. Edited November 1, 2014 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Last nights meeting at Leicester was an great advert for NL speedway. A hard fought match between two fully committed teams on an excellently prepared track. £12 to get in and all finished by 9.10. What more could you want! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 What more could you want? Absolutely nothing is the answer. Brilliant night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Obviously brilliant night for us heathens and many thanks to Leicester for giving us a track to ride on.I hate to moan on a night like last night but it was my 3rd visit to Leicester and I'm afraid the racing did little to excite me passing wise.don't get me wrong it was a good meeting but I think really only because the importance of it.my brother said after about 8 heats "I wouldn't want to watch racing like this every week" and remember that's coming from someone who supports a team with no track!there was inside passes but only generally down to mistakes.I don't remember any outside passes after the first bend.sorry to be negative but I find it annoying that the tracks not better given they had a blank canvass to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) OK, whats National League Speedway like? Great News that my team, Eastbourne, are riding next year and I am well happy that they are looking to put a local young team together. My concern though is that the racing could be a bit tame with young and inexperience riders at the back with the better riders miles in front. However, Elite League speedway is sometimes far from edge of seat excitement, especially around the confines of Arlington. I have never seen national League Speedway so it would be good to hear some honest views on what we can expect at Arlo in 2015. I know it's not indicative of all NL hts and probably not the best but here is an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQMNpcdlUMk#t=48 And a much better one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqxZAyeyXys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEbxdsDTn4Y Edited November 1, 2014 by TMW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) I know it's not indicative of all NL hts and probably not the best but here is an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQMNpcdlUMk#t=48 And a much better one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqxZAyeyXys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEbxdsDTn4Y This is a good race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtdW5vyYvjw&sns=fb&app=desktop and the Heathens pairing is Clegg and Greaves too so they show that age doesn't matter! Edited November 2, 2014 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) This is a good race and the Heathens pairing is Clegg and Greaves too so they show that age doesn't matter!I don't think age ever has mattered. We have or have had an EL full of 16 & 17 yr old poles aussies and Danes Edited November 2, 2014 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't think age ever has mattered. We have or have had an EL full of 16 & 17 yr old poles aussies and Danes I think there's quite a few EL snobs that think at this level there's kids wobbling around at the back and they can't race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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