Al Stewart Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I point out coming 2nd in the British Final, although a good achievement is not comparable to British Finals 20 years ago yet im told thats laughable. Is it? You've changed the comment though - of course coming second in 2014 isn't as good as coming second in 1994 but it's certainly more than the equivalent of just qualifying. What always amazes me though is the attention paid by fans of other clubs to Craig Cook, and the eagerness to jeer every time he doesn't have a good meeting. How about Ben Barker, Josh Auty, Eddie Kennett, Richie Worrall? None of them have gone as far as they should but don't get this attention. Simon Stead gets huge praise just for being good at Sheffield! I'm not criticising any of these riders, it's up to everyone just to do their best. Until late last year I had seen every meeting Cook has had for Edinburgh and I don't have the slightest doubt that if he could ride as well in the EL as he does in the PL he would score much more heavily. As yet he has found it hard to ride with the same fluency and confidence. Maybe he will go on to achieve more and maybe he won't but let's wait and see. Jason Doyle is a prime example of someone very good in the PL who has suddenly gone to a higher level - possibly because he was forced out of the PL. Until 2013 Cook had more than the measure of Doyle in the Premier League, and Doyle had been around that division longer than Cook had. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I point out coming 2nd in the British Final, although a good achievement is not comparable to British Finals 20 years ago yet im told thats laughable. Is it? You've changed the comment though - of course coming second in 2014 isn't as good as coming second in 1994 but it's certainly more than the equivalent of just qualifying. What always amazes me though is the attention paid by fans of other clubs to Craig Cook, and the eagerness to jeer every time he doesn't have a good meeting. How about Ben Barker, Josh Auty, Eddie Kennett, Richie Worrall? None of them have gone as far as they should but don't get this attention. Simon Stead gets huge praise just for being good at Sheffield! I'm not criticising any of these riders, it's up to everyone just to do their best. Until late last year I had seen every meeting Cook has had for Edinburgh and I don't have the slightest doubt that if he could ride as well in the EL as he does in the PL he would score much more heavily. As yet he has found it hard to ride with the same fluency and confidence. Maybe he will go on to achieve more and maybe he won't but let's wait and see. Jason Doyle is a prime example of someone very good in the PL who has suddenly gone to a higher level - possibly because he was forced out of the PL. Until 2013 Cook had more than the measure of Doyle in the Premier League, and Doyle had been around that division longer than Cook had. Cook doesn't do himself any favours with his Facebook ,Twitter comments .I Personaly am not on these sites yet I seem to always be hearing about his comments through this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Your right Mr Blooby, they are obsessed with Craig.......maybe they should think about their own riders.....start talking them up Is it obsession or is it jealousy......mmmmm let me think!! Mr Blooby? Cheers for giving us that one. How can us Tigers posters refrain from using? As for obsession or jealousy, does the same logic apply to stadiums and owners investing large sums of money? Or opposing team line-ups? Or other track's admission prices? Or dogs? Edited April 8, 2015 by george.m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I've said it loads of times I would love Cook at Ipswich. Even if he rode for us he would still be a bit of a prat with his comments and ego but you would want him in your team. All I'm saying is he needs to grow up and mature a bit and in my opinion he isnt going to get any higher in the sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamlad Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Cook doesn't do himself any favours with his Facebook ,Twitter comments .I Personaly am not on these sites yet I seem to always be hearing about his comments through this forum.Cook is a gob sh... who's decent in the PL and like a fish out of water anywhere else, never be a GP rider , spits his dummy out when anyone dare criticise him. Needs to keep a look out because before long he'll lose that no 1 jacket to Masters Edited April 8, 2015 by jamlad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Why do you feel the need to jump on his back though? First EL meeting of the season and he doesn't have a good one and you come on an edinburgh thread to have a go at him, when really there is no need to. Anyway why are you having a go at him on an Edinburgh thread? should you not be posting this on a belle Vue thread as it is Belle Vue that he isn't doing as well for? Quite agree should be on Belle vue thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Cook doesn't do himself any favours with his Facebook ,Twitter comments .I Personaly am not on these sites yet I seem to always be hearing about his comments through this forum.neither does big Al, he blames punters for winding craig up First EL meeting of the season didn't have good be deal plenty more meetings left to get going. Your very quick to slate hime but never congradulate him when he has done something good . For example you banged on all last season about he won't improve he needs to go to poland blah blah blah he got himself a spot in poland and not peep from you. Anyway should you not have better things to do like continue your obsession with everything poole on their thread... you dont have a cookie obsession though do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 second elite league meeting tonight and at least he managed to beat Ashley Morris. Poor performance from Stead to. Seems the premier league top 2 aren't equipped for being elite league riders. Im a premier league fan but the gulf between the leagues is vast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Roll on the WTC Team GB Barker, Stead and Craig Cook who needs Woffinden afterall Edited April 8, 2015 by TheGreenLions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 second elite league meeting tonight and at least he managed to beat Ashley Morris. Poor performance from Stead to. Seems the premier league top 2 aren't equipped for being elite league riders. Im a premier league fan but the gulf between the leagues is vast this is an Edinburgh thread. Go and post it on the Belle Vue thread as he under performing for them not us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 this is an Edinburgh thread. Go and post it on the Belle Vue thread as he under performing for them not us.no I won't post under the Belle Vue thread as Belle Vue are of no importance to my team Ipswich. I'm discussing that Cook is in poor form which could carry over to the premier league. Now Edinburgh are a rival of my club so it's quite relevant that I'm debating it on the Edinburgh thread. Quite rightly if he bangs in maximums for you boys then you don't care but what if he scored only 8 or 9 in the next few meetings would it not be a concern? Try to stop being so precious in what you post about wonder boy and try having a debate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 No signs so far that he`s under par for the monarchs....... thanks Gavan! however he struggled a fair bit last year with BV and that hasn`t changed YET! This weekend will tell us more especially Shielfield where gating is at a premium, and his pal maybe back for the badnits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 No signs so far that he`s under par for the monarchs....... thanks Gavan! however he struggled a fair bit last year with BV and that hasn`t changed YET! This weekend will tell us more especially Shielfield where gating is at a premium, and his pal maybe back for the badnits thank you for answering my post sensibly and actually having a discussion without the need to get abusive and touchy. Just a shame some Edinburgh fans seem incapable of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) In his last home meeting for Edinburgh, Cook was on a paid max until his last race. Thats not poor form. It's the EL for some reason he's struggling in and that's as a second string. Edited April 9, 2015 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 pos elite is stronger than usual, (better reserves )where as the premier is a weaker product. stead also struggling at this moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Look at Lawson then. Phenomenal in the Elite but average to good for a PL number 1, which he won't be when Morris moves up in May anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Look at Lawson then. Phenomenal in the Elite but average to good for a PL number 1, which he won't be when Morris moves up in May anyway. Thats not quite true is it? You've used two EL meetings for one rider to try prove your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 this is an Edinburgh thread. Go and post it on the Belle Vue thread as he under performing for them not us. I tend to agree with Mr B here this should be on another thread. You could alway's start for example The petulant child thread or even The Facebook moderator thread It would be more appropriate on one off those. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Im sorry im still unsure as to why i need to post this on the Belle Vue thread? Craig Cook is struggling in the elite league i get that. However my team are in the Premier League. Im asking if Monarchs fans are worried his poor form could spill into the Premier thus affecting their team. Surely this is relevent to the Edinburgh thread? I couldnt give 2 hoots about Cook in the Elite but hope he struggles against us! He does usually throw his toys out at Foxhall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Im sorry im still unsure as to why i need to post this on the Belle Vue thread? Craig Cook is struggling in the elite league i get that. However my team are in the Premier League. Im asking if Monarchs fans are worried his poor form could spill into the Premier thus affecting their team. Surely this is relevent to the Edinburgh thread? I couldnt give 2 hoots about Cook in the Elite but hope he struggles against us! He does usually throw his toys out at Foxhall! Hope he throws out his toys like he did in his last visit to Foxhall - 15 pt max and broke track record 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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