Robinh88 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Lol edinburgh hahaahahahahahaaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Read the papers, they are full of stories regarding making immigration from non EU countries more difficult, can the BSPA really believe that a government who are trying to get re-elected on a ticket that says they are reducing immigration really going to roll over and reduce the entry requirements for Speedway. Dream on. More likely they will remember non EU riders used to come in on a 9 point average. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 The Swedes & Poles come over here, the Promoters pay for their flights etc (which is costly to clubs), and then they ride their meetings, get paid and go home and spend their money in their own countries, fair enough. The Australians/New Zealanders on the other hand come over and live here, ride their meetings and spend their money, and pay their taxes in the Uk, and then go home after the seasons finished, as without any Aussies riding Speedway especially PL we wouldn't have enough riders of the quality needed for this league, as unfortunately due to lack of investment to help British riders over the years we have not enough British riders to fill the teams. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) The Swedes & Poles come over here, the Promoters pay for their flights etc (which is costly to clubs), and then they ride their meetings, get paid and go home and spend their money in their own countries, fair enough. The Australians/New Zealanders on the other hand come over and live here, ride their meetings and spend their money, and pay their taxes in the Uk, and then go home after the seasons finished, as without any Aussies riding Speedway especially PL we wouldn't have enough riders of the quality needed for this league, as unfortunately due to lack of investment to help British riders over the years we have not enough British riders to fill the teams. I hope this point is stressed at this meeting in Jan. However, the PL teams really need to show a sign of intention for lesser reliance by implementing a draft system for the reserves. Edited December 17, 2014 by superguest 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 , as unfortunately due to lack of investment to help British riders over the years we have not enough British riders to fill the teams. Allthough a good point,im not sure its all down to investment,i hate to say it but the Aussies seem to have the right winning mentality that seems to have been eradicated in the UK by Guardian reading bearded loons,who seem to think competative sport is wrong Investment helps yes,but i know for a fact that, for example, Ryan Douglas rides an engine that cost 1k from a from National league rider who couldnt make it go Just hope the UKBA show some sense and let riders of ability come and race here! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 What the British riders need is for the powers that be to inject some fire in their belly's, maybe the BSPA could negotiate with Motorcycle Australia that as the UK has "Trained" up most of their top riders over recent years that perhaps about a dozen of our bright prospects could be invited to Australia for a test series of England v Australia with the full backing of the BSPA and the SCB, it didn't do any harm to the likes of Dave Jessup, John Louis and so on. The only way to find a star is to put them in the position to prove that have the little round things to grab the chance 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I've read the above posts, and this isn't answer to anyone really but as I see British speedway; Its crying out for British riders to get to the top, be good enough to give us fans something to shout about, to be able to compete with the best in the world.. We've got to look after our own first, which doesn't happen! In the seventies we had loads of top riders. Without top riders watch our speedway go down the pan! Look at the old DVDs and take note of the crowds. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I've read the above posts, and this isn't answer to anyone really but as I see British speedway; Its crying out for British riders to get to the top, be good enough to give us fans something to shout about, to be able to compete with the best in the world.. We've got to look after our own first, which doesn't happen! In the seventies we had loads of top riders. Without top riders watch our speedway go down the pan! Look at the old DVDs and take note of the crowds. I agree with you all the way but Aussie tours by young England riders did well years back. But the UK has been and always will be the training ground for the rest of the world, and when the European riders reached the top of their trade they dumped England like a bad smell. But look at the riders that have been “trained” in the UK but have never made progress but where still employed various promoters thus shutting the English riders out in the cold. Speedway is not an easy sport in any sense of the word, there are riders that are knocking on the door of being a true star but nobody is answering the door, it just seems that if their name doesn’t end in “ske” or “ssen” then they stand no chance of making it big in speedway. In my opinion it is about time that European countries and Australia pay back the debt and offer our youngsters some skids and even a team trial, you owe the UK now pay up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I refer you to your post #438 on the Edinburgh 2015 thread. Hmmm - it's a struggle without the post numbers on my phone! Post referred to:- Alex must be losing his touch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Cheers m'dear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 You know me, always happy to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicesterLion39 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Jack HOlder tweeted this morning at 04:00 that he is not a Rebel anymore... Take it you will be on the lookout for a new rider then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Jack HOlder tweeted this morning at 04:00 that he is not a Rebel anymore... Take it you will be on the lookout for a new rider then. So if he is coming over to race over here then that leaves Plymouth, Newcastle, Glasgow or Berwick who can fit the lad into their team for the start of the season. My guess is that Plymouth could well be the favourites to get his signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicesterLion39 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 So if he is coming over to race over here then that leaves Plymouth, Newcastle, Glasgow or Berwick who can fit the lad into their team for the start of the season. My guess is that Plymouth could well be the favourites to get his signature. Yeah because if i understand correctly his average is 7.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 So if he is coming over to race over here then that leaves Plymouth, Newcastle, Glasgow or Berwick who can fit the lad into their team for the start of the season. My guess is that Plymouth could well be the favourites to get his signature. If he gets a work permit you mean....has the lad actually finished in top 3 in state titles??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 If he gets a work permit you mean....has the lad actually finished in top 3 in state titles??? I thought that they had to finish in the top 8, or has their been another change in the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I thought that they had to finish in the top 8, or has their been another change in the rules. Not sure to be honest...for some reason i thought it was top 3..could be wrong tho! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not sure to be honest...for some reason i thought it was top 3..could be wrong tho! To be fair I am not too sure myself. its a minefield for Aussies to get over here. Which find a bit irksome to be honest when you consider how they appear to far more loyal to British speedway than any other speedway nation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Yeah because if i understand correctly his average is 7.00 Presumably his visa application will need a new club 'sponsor' unless the BSPA authorise it?! If his average is assessed at 7.00 for a PL club - what if an EL club took a risk with him, what would the average be then?? 4.20 ? (7 x 0.6)? Or for example would it be like Milik at Poole this year on 4.00, or even lower? Edited December 21, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Would reckon a 4.00 as no previous experience in other major leagues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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