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Personally, I couldn't give a stuff where my teams riders come from. As long as they're fully committed and are banging the points in.

 

but that bit is'nt usually the case :-(

 

on this whole subject, would it be wrong to suggest that,

a proportion of the BSPA think that average speedway fan's are as incompetent as themselves ???

 

one thing for sure tho,,, 'speedway will run out of eyes, before promoters run out of wool' :-)

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You would think alone line statement clarifying the matter would be suffice,one way or the other.

 

common sense would think it would,,, but in releasing a statement might make them look even stupiderer than they do and might lead to certain people getting the blame,,,

because I'm sure some fan's would want to know, 'who and why',,, and have them 'tarred and feathered', a would :-)

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Somebody raised the point, perhaps on another thread, that the 7.00 which newcomers had to aspire to in the past included their bonus points.

 

Now these are no longer included in a rider's CMA, it is simply ridiculous to demand a young rider has to achieve the same figure.

Back in the 80s and early 90s work permit riders (and don't forget the EU was not as big back then so that included many countrys including Poland and the Cz Rep) had to get 6 point averages in the British (Elite) League. Things change. But I do accept there may be some argument for work permit riders not to have to get 7, but a drop to 5 is massive - an excessive bonus point scorer scores 1 a meeting, most score 1 every 2 or 3 meetings - so 6.5 should be do-able.

 

 

From what I was told all hell broke loose with the UKBA last season precisely because one club replaced an English rider with a foreign one.

TBF, all work permits are only meant to be handed out if a Brit (or EU) worker of the same level cannot be found. Anyone remember the year Eastbourne signed Krys Cegeilski and days before the season started he was dropped for Mark Loram who was without a team that season. Apparently, UKBA said it was barmy that the British World Champion of 12 months previous didn't have a job while Aussies and Poles who needed work permits did have team places. It gets awkward in speedway as if you only have 8.00 left but a Brit is 8.01 and the Aussie is 7.99 then UKBA could say they're the same level but the rules don't allow him to sign technically.

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From what I was told all hell broke loose with the UKBA last season precisely because one club replaced an English rider with a foreign one.

too be honest i find it hard to believe they follow speedway close enough to know who replaces who

they dont seam to care how many foriegn workers are taking the day to day jobs

where i work we have less than 100 perminent staff topped up with a few agency workers when we get busy periods and we have 5 different foriegn nationalitys working with us surely if they werent working for us thoose places would be filled by british workers

speedway is no different to other employments apart from the skilled workforce is not as high a standard in britten

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too be honest i find it hard to believe they follow speedway close enough to know who replaces who

They dont have to follow it but if you were about to get the sack and replace by an Aussie or an American wouldn't you contact the UKBA?

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Surely Somerset wouldn't have needed to ask the BSPA in the first place (whether they were misinformed or not) as they were at the AGM where they were told that Aussies were on a 7. Rob said that Scunthorpe stopped negotiations with 2 Aussies for this very reason as teams were told of the average change for this year.

looks like somerset were try'n to pull a fast 1 ?? oops and got found out,,,,,,,

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looks like somerset were try'n to pull a fast 1 ?? oops and got found out,,,,,,,

if it wasnt so obvious i would agree but i cant believe they knew the day before the team was anounced and still went ahead with team anouncement

for that reason alone i think they were trying to get away with it maybe hoping the same as last year

(if we pretend we didnt know they will back down and let us away with it just like last year)

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probably because the BSPA office treated the Visa and Immigration people with the same arrogance and disdain as they treat everyone else the government department have been watching things very closely indeed. They know the averages of every rider in British Speedway and they arent going away, currently non EU riders are only allowed at all because the Natio nal League exists and is considered to be a training scheme to bring on BRITISH riders to replace (Eventually) non EU riders in the Premier and Elite Leagues. Thats why the National League is only allowed British riders, without the NL acting as a training league there would be NO non EU riders in British speedway.

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interesting comments about the nl riders being british. who is zac woll === , something or other doing rididng in the nl for birmingham. i take it he is british.. please forgive my ignorance.

You may mean Zach Wajtknecht

 

Nationality British, lives in Saltford near Bristol.

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