redlead Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Somerset's 6 rider averages, = 37.52, add Holders '5.00' = 42.52, Holder won't even fit on a 5,??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Theres no evidence the coversion rate from EL to PL has changed.... But it has The masons tell you nothing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Somerset's 6 rider averages, = 37.52, add Holders '5.00' = 42.52, Holder won't even fit on a 5,??? come on keep up with the debate check post 335 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 no change has been announced because as far as the UK Visa and Immigration department the 7 point assessment for Non EU riders has been in force for some years, the BSPA in their wisdom decided to allow Aussie riders to come in on a 5 INDEPENDENT OF THE OPINION of the UK Visa and Immigration service. They have also ignored the requirement that the riders from non EU countries actually achieve their assessed average within 2 years or no further visas are issued and the non complying riders have to return to their country of origin. CVS and others at the meeting with the UK V & I were astonished when they were presented with listing of the averages of all visa issued riders, visa and immigration are watching speedway closely, this attempt at getting around the agreed figures will not be tolerated. I believe Jack Holder could be on the next flight back to OZ without leaving the airport IF the 5 assessment continues 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) no change has been announced because as far as the UK Visa and Immigration department the 7 point assessment for Non EU riders has been in force for some years, the BSPA in their wisdom decided to allow Aussie riders to come in on a 5 INDEPENDENT OF THE OPINION of the UK Visa and Immigration service. They have also ignored the requirement that the riders from non EU countries actually achieve their assessed average within 2 years or no further visas are issued and the non complying riders have to return to their country of origin. CVS and others at the meeting with the UK V & I were astonished when they were presented with listing of the averages of all visa issued riders, visa and immigration are watching speedway closely, this attempt at getting around the agreed figures will not be tolerated. I believe Jack Holder could be on the next flight back to OZ without leaving the airport IF the 5 assessment continues Lets not forget this isn't just about Jack Holder. There are two other Australians - Sissis and Allen - to whom this applies. This isn't about Somerset, its about how 3 clubs believe one thing and three others something else. Edited December 5, 2014 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 One thing is perfectly clear... ...that everything is as clear as mud. I think the BSPA owe us a statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 This is absolutely ridiculous now. People sprouting things without full knowledge, or are you lot all knowing? There could be a loophole or anything that we don't know about. Leave my club alone and stop calling us cheaters. Any team would take an option to benefit them, somerset have done nothing wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlead Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 come on keep up with the debate check post 335Must have missed it in the 27 pages lol, glad speedway is such a simple sport!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Sissis has dual nationality via his Greek parents and should be exempt from this drama. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 This is absolutely ridiculous now. People sprouting things without full knowledge, or are you lot all knowing? There could be a loophole or anything that we don't know about. Leave my club alone and stop calling us cheaters. Any team would take an option to benefit them, somerset have done nothing wrong.get a grip!! You got away with one last year, no doubt you will this also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) When do promotions apply for a visa for the following year? Is it now once they have agreed terms for the 2015 season or could a visa be applied for now with the intention of not activating the visa until the following year? Eg could a team apply now for 2 riders but only use 1 now and the other in a years time? Edited December 5, 2014 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Lets not forget this isn't just about Jack Holder. There are two other Australians - Sissis and Allen - to whom this applies. This isn't about Somerset, its about how 3 clubs believe one thing and three others something else. Sissis is a 100% dual passport so is on a 5,-[ Neil Machin saw his mum breaking plates and chasing goats in 1942] Edited December 5, 2014 by montie 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejb Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Sissis is a 100% dual passport so is on a 5,-[ Neil Machin saw his mum breaking plates and chasing goats in 1942] do you mean his grandmother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coomie Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 After last years farce,thought we would get the team right this time, without any questions,have to wait and see now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 After last years farce,thought we would get the team right this time, without any questions,have to wait and see now!A true Rebel fan, thanks for your honesty! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) After last years farce,thought we would get the team right this time, without any questions,have to wait and see now! Well, it's the same guy making the same 'mistakes' apparently. Edited December 5, 2014 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Same old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 And please enlighten everybody as to why Jack should come in on a 7 ? BECUS WE ALL HATE POOLE!! no change has been announced because as far as the UK Visa and Immigration department the 7 point assessment for Non EU riders has been in force for some years, the BSPA in their wisdom decided to allow Aussie riders to come in on a 5 INDEPENDENT OF THE OPINION of the UK Visa and Immigration service. They have also ignored the requirement that the riders from non EU countries actually achieve their assessed average within 2 years or no further visas are issued and the non complying riders have to return to their country of origin. CVS and others at the meeting with the UK V & I were astonished when they were presented with listing of the averages of all visa issued riders, visa and immigration are watching speedway closely, this attempt at getting around the agreed figures will not be tolerated. I believe Jack Holder could be on the next flight back to OZ without leaving the airport IF the 5 assessment continues So, all them years I complained about Chris Kerr and his seemingly dodgy work permits and averages, I was right! He shouldn't have been over here on them averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Well, it's the same guy making the same 'mistakes' apparently. 3 years in a row - hattrick! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Lets not forget this isn't just about Jack Holder. There are two other Australians - Sissis and Allen - to whom this applies. This isn't about Somerset, its about how 3 clubs believe one thing and three others something else. It really is about Somerset. Berwick can accomodate Allen on a 5 or a 7 at present, and so indeed could Sheffield (if Sissis doesn't have EU citizenship). Just depends who else they sign up. Somerset are the team who have declared an over-the-limit 1-7, presuming Holder will be a 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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