Charlie Webster

[Steve55]

Can't believe some of the posts I've read on here! I'm totally behind Charlie Webster & Jess Ennis on this. How can anybody defend what this man Evans has been found 'guilty' of. The Court/jury found him 'guilty' as charged. The evidence is quite clear as outlined in the previous pages. Don't care what any of you say, why should he go back to what he had before, 5k a week (or whatever) and a privelidged life style.

This bloke has a good looking girl friend (with a millionaire father) why does he react to a text from one of his mates, allegedly saying "got the girl", by going straight to the hotel, entering deviously and leaving anonymously, after having sex with a totally unknown girl!

All this he's paid the price for his misdemeanour is rubbish. He's served half his sentence, not because he's shown remorse, but because he's behaved inside.

His PR video is about as genuine as a plastic gold medal, with his upset girlfriend along side him, what is she all about? What has she got to be forgiving for? He must have got her wrapped around his little finger as has she with her dad!

Well he's got another appeal on the go and to have got that he must have produced 'new evidence' for this. Hope it's good and not one of his mates coming out with something he's heard! But let's wait and see, he's got the best defence team money can buy, but he also had that for his PR stunt - which wasn't very good, was it?

[Arson fire]

Can't believe some of the posts I've read on here! I'm totally behind Charlie Webster & Jess Ennis on this. How can anybody defend what this man Evans has been found 'guilty' of. The Court/jury found him 'guilty' as charged. The evidence is quite clear as outlined in the previous pages. Don't care what any of you say, why should he go back to what he had before, 5k a week (or whatever) and a privelidged life style.

This bloke has a good looking girl friend (with a millionaire father) why does he react to a text from one of his mates, allegedly saying "got the girl", by going straight to the hotel, entering deviously and leaving anonymously, after having sex with a totally unknown girl!

All this he's paid the price for his misdemeanour is rubbish. He's served half his sentence, not because he's shown remorse, but because he's behaved inside.

His PR video is about as genuine as a plastic gold medal, with his upset girlfriend along side him, what is she all about? What has she got to be forgiving for? He must have got her wrapped around his little finger as has she with her dad!

Well he's got another appeal on the go and to have got that he must have produced 'new evidence' for this. Hope it's good and not one of his mates coming out with something he's heard! But let's wait and see, he's got the best defence team money can buy, but he also had that for his PR stunt - which wasn't very good, was it?

Nobody is defending him at all, we are questioning how the verdicts were reached....imo i think they are unsafe with alot of things unanswered, am i not entitled to that opinion just because its not the same as the majority?? If hes a footballer or a plasterer it doesnt matter a jot, nor does it if his girlfriend is pretty, her dad has cash or hes shown no remorse. Thats got nothing to do with the verdict.

[Star Lady]

Just to put another twist on this. Why if some folk are puzzled by the two separate verdicts regarding consent are they not questioning why the other male involved was found innocent? They insist there was no difference in her state of mind (or otherwise) so why was one cleared and one not. Strange that they seem to want both to be innocent and not both guilty.

[Arson fire]

Just to put another twist on this. Why if some folk are puzzled by the two separate verdicts regarding consent are they not questioning why the other male involved was found innocent? They insist there was no difference in her state of mind (or otherwise) so why was one cleared and one not. Strange that they seem to want both to be innocent and not both guilty.

thats not the case at all?? who has said that?

[Grachan]

Just to put another twist on this. Why if some folk are puzzled by the two separate verdicts regarding consent are they not questioning why the other male involved was found innocent? They insist there was no difference in her state of mind (or otherwise) so why was one cleared and one not. Strange that they seem to want both to be innocent and not both guilty.

If you read through, you'll see that some people are saying both should be guilty. You seem to be reading things into it that aren't there.

 

There may be a case for both to have been guilty, but there is certainly a difference in the two scenarios.

[Steve55]

Nobody is defending him at all, we are questioning how the verdicts were reached....imo i think they are unsafe with alot of things unanswered, am i not entitled to that opinion just because its not the same as the majority?? If hes a footballer or a plasterer it doesnt matter a jot, nor does it if his girlfriend is pretty, her dad has cash or hes shown no remorse. Thats got nothing to do with the verdict.

I'm on about the posts stating that he should be allowed to resume his previous career as a very well paid sports person, in the public eye and as a role model to aspiring young men and boys. That's what matters here. His actions were underhand & devious and he was found 'guilty' of a very serious crime. As a convicted rapist he shouldn't be able to return to his previous fortune & fame as he is not a good example to the rest of society!

As for the other ne'er-do-well involved in the offence well he got off. However for one reason or another his career hasn't really progressed, either nobody is interested in him or he's not very good at football.

Tell you what though if by some miracle Sheffield United had made it back into the Premiership in the interim whilst Evans was inside I believe none of this would be in the news, because they wouldn't have given any thought what so ever in re-signing him.

Also without his girl friend and her rich daddy I don't think he'd be able to afford the new legal team in his current attempt to 'prove himself innocent'. That's always a possibility too. How many times have the 'Guilty' gone free because of some technicality, because the judge used the wrong words when summing up or the prosecution failed to disclose some really un-important material. They'll be going through everything with a fine tooth comb, why because they think he's innocent or because they are being paid very well?

[orion]

If you read through, you'll see that some people are saying both should be guilty. You seem to be reading things into it that aren't there.

 

There may be a case for both to have been guilty, but there is certainly a difference in the two scenarios.

Don't think there is either was in control or she was not . she still had the same amount of drink in her no matter who slept with her and that is what the case depends on .. no drunk girl no case .

 

Anyhow time to watch the darts with those great role models Phil Taylor and Klassen

Edited December 27, 2014 by orion

[SteveLyric2]

Police brought the case because she was deemed medically unable to consent to both men, meaning she cant make an informed decision... Whats wrong is how the jury and appeal court ruled she could and couldnt..... What happened before and after should have no bearing if she was unable to make informed decisions... So either they both did or they both didnt??

Evans acted shadily, but his actions dont mean he raped her...

 

If i stood outside the bank on a cold day in a balyclava whilst it was been robbed, then ran for my bus it doesnt mean ive robbed the bank or played any part in it.... But my actions would suggest otherwise.

 

....but you could have made a quick withdrawal from the 'hole in the wall'!!

[The White Knight]

You don't know for sure, maybe, but it is enough to cast reasonable doubt. I only know from what is on here. I don't know the full details of the case. But that's how it seems to me.

 

There is a clear difference between the two though.

 

It does seem to me that the first guy is guilty of some form of aiding and abetting, however, with regard to the second case.

If there is "reasonable doubt" he should not have been found Guilty. I would say, though, that the man is certainly no gentleman to take advantage as he is alleged to have done. Is he a Rapist? - I don't know but there does seem to be doubt.